i've watched some posts on this windows 7 in regards to boot up times and shut down times. i would like to know why it still takes forever to shut down the pc and start up the pc, anyone have any answers on why this wouldn't happen when that's what they advertise, oh ya and i find it real sluggish... is this going to be another operating systeme that is memory hungry and speed hungry, will they have to start producing 4 core quad processors and 16gb of ram to run this smoothly.?

Could you post your hardware specs? I'm not seeing the behavior you are. Maybe we can figure out what is causing the slowness. Knowing what your hardware is will give an idea where to start looking. Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

1. Windows is a general purpose operating system. It's gonna boot fast enough to make most people happy. But if you want extreme performance out of it, it's gonna take a lot of work on your part to "tweak" that performance.2. Most people state that they've seen faster startup/shutdown times with Windows 7. Without specifics from you it's impossible to tell where your problem lies.3. Please check your Event Viewer for errors during the boot and shutdown sequence to see what's causing the problem. Another common problem is that device drivers aren't installed - you can check this in Device Management4. This is BETA software, it's for testing purposes. If it was ready to release to users, there wouldn't be any further need for the beta program. Beta software has bugs - if you can't stand the bugs, then I'd suggest going back to your previous version of Windows - John

okay so here we go nothing special but these specs should soffice, so i'm running an Acer aspire 5520 tk57 with 256mb ram dedicated video memory i think it might even be 512mb its a dual core 1.6ghz processor by amd and i upgraded my ram from 1gb ram to a pair of 1gb 666mhz so a total 2gb planning on 2 sticks of 2gb 666mhz was running vista home premium 160gb hdd and dl dvd burner not much of a laptop but does the trick

How did you load Windows 7? Did you upgrade Vista w/all of the OEM apps installed, or did you do a clean install?

nope authentic vista, i had formated my computer like 2-3 ago and did a factory re-installation of my vista home prem. i then downloaded and burned windows 7 beta and then upgraded windows vista to windows 7. So am i to assume that you are going to tell me to format my hdd and install windows 7 beta right from scratch like a new install?

Actually yes. You dont even have to reformat. Boot with the Win7 DVD, then when you get to screen where you select your hard drive, click the advanced button or icon and delete the partition on the drive. No need to format here as the OS install will take care of that matter for you when you click next. If you are doing a factory re-installation, that probably means that install also contains all of the OEM-ware that normally accompanies a retail system. Even with the best intentions, the OEM-ware stuff can practically kill a computerespecially if the OEM-ware is not native to the OS (which in this case, it would not). With you experiencing slow startups and shutdowns, the only way to isolate the OS from anything else that may be a culprit is to do a clean install. Then, and only then, can you make a determination as to why Windows 7 is booting and shutting down slowly.

well i'll tell you i'm not really having any problems with my pc nor am i having any problems with the win 7, so far it seems to be a fairly stable program, i really am curious though as to the shut down times and start up times. i would like to know how long it suppose to take to shut down and start up and if anyone has run a time test on it, if i get other results from a second opinion or a third opinion then i can definetaly make my assumption on wheather there is anything wrong with win 7 beta. oh and i also read and heard some stories on the task manager, its not suppose to run background programs, well they are wrong about that too. i can understand explorer bar and maybe winlogon.exe and maybe rundll32.exe, but these extras like sidebar.exe and RtHDVCpl.exe and a bunch of others, there was also some talk about these programs that you do use when closing them it will stop them from running in the task manager, i don't know call me stupid, i'm just a little confused on the quirks of this program.

The only time it will take a long time to shut down is if a program cannot shut down. It seems to happen mostly with failed app installation and requires a manual reboot.Other than that, the boot up and shut down times have been really fast, at least compared with windows xp.

time it in seconds or minutes the shut down times and boot up times

well i've timed the start up and shut down times. boot up 62 seconds till desktop that's not counting the full loading of desktop apps like sidebar ____ it requires another 15 seconds to complete the rest of the apps. Which i find still kinda sluggish, shut down 37 seconds complete off that's fairly impressive. anyone still using vista I CHANLLENGE YOU ALL TO TIME IT...

quest4tribal said: okay so here we go nothing special but these specs should soffice, so i'm running an Acer aspire 5520 tk57 with 256mb ram dedicated video memory i think it might even be 512mb its a dual core 1.6ghz processor by amd and i upgraded my ram from 1gb ram to a pair of 1gb 666mhz so a total 2gb planning on 2 sticks of 2gb 666mhz was running vista home premium 160gb hdd and dl dvd burner not much of a laptop but does the trick That's too weird. I'm running Windows 7 on an almost identical notebook. The only difference is my CPU is a TK55 and I have 4 GB of RAM. I upgraded from Vista Business x64 to Windows 7 Ultimate x64. Booting and shutting down Windows 7 seems about the same as it did, maybe a little faster, with Vista. Performance seems a little faster in day to day use. It must be a driver or app that's causing your problem. Did you update or do a clean install? 64 bit or 32 bit? Open Perfomance Information and Tools (just type performance in the Start search box). Click on Advanced Tools. Is there anything listed under Performance Issues? What is your Windows Experience Index. Mine is as follows. Yours should be the same or better. Processor 4.5Memory 5.7Graphics 3.2Gaming Graphics 3.2Primary hard disk 3.0 Even with those lowly results the computer is responsive and doesn't seem sluggish at all except if I try to play a graphics intensive game. Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

@ quest4tribal:you wanted times? Times, with specs:Core2Duo E73002x 1GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 (running @ DDR2 800, due to BIOS bug)Gigabyte GA-P31-ES3GClean install of Win7 Home Premium, upgraded to Ultimate:Startup time is <30 seconds (from Windows splash screen to logon prompt), <30 seconds after logon to a usable desktop (and, this is on a Win2k3 domain, complete with mapped network drives to reconnect.)Shutdown is around 30 seconds.Give me until tomorrow night (Wednesday at the latest), and I'll give you exact figures (I can guarantee a reboot will happen then, due to need to work on another system - long story short, Intellipoint still hates my KVM switch.)I'm in complete agreement with the suggestions that others have already made:Just as in earlier versions of Windows, 'long' startup times are nearly always caused by an excess of programs & third-party services that start with Windows (and, notably, ones that have compatibilty issues and/or are poorly written); long shutdown times are *always* caused by balky drivers and/or third-party programs and/or services that are slow to close.Even money says that a clean install (rather than an upgrade from a "clean factory recovery image", which tends to bring a lot of, ah, fluff, with it), along with properly-installedVista-compatible drivers (latest versions, natch) for any hardware that Windows Update can't take care of,will perform up to your expectations.HTH,Chris [If this post helps to resolve your issue, please click the "Mark as Answer" or "Helpful" button at the top of this message. By marking a post as Answered, or Helpful you help others find the answer faster.]

nah kerry_brown its nowhere near that i'm only getting a review of 3.1 as my total score Processor 4.3 Memory 5.5 Graphics 3.3 Gaming Graphics 3.1 Primary hard disk 4.7 all this using an AMD athlon dual core and a 32 bit operating system

quest4tribal said: nah kerry_brown its nowhere near that i'm only getting a review of 3.1 as my total score Processor 4.3 Memory 5.5 Graphics 3.3 Gaming Graphics 3.1 Primary hard disk 4.7 all this using an AMD athlon dual core and a 32 bit operating system That's about right for the hardware. What about my other question? Is there anything listed under Performance Issues?Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

Tried a defrag?

xDirect said:Tried a defrag? That's silly after reading the thread! Drive was formatted / Vista Installed ... I guess upgraded to W7. There should be no real fragmentation issues.My system comes with 3.2 for performance.It's only a +4200 Athlon 64 x2 (might replace it w/ Quad core)4Gb DDR2 667HD's SATA WD: 1000Gb/500Gb/250Gb/200Gb/IDE Maxtor 60Gb T=2.01TbDVD Writer/reader W7 installed on 2nd partition of 250Gb driveOnboard 7.1 audio & DVI 256Mb shared (w/ the 4Gb system memory)

I have had no performance issues on my machine: Dell OptiPlex 755, 3.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 3GB RAM,4.4 on Performance It can boot from cold start to logon prompt in about 50 seconds and maybe another 10 to a usable desktop (this is in a domain environment). Personally, I don't see this as a vast improvement over Vista or any non-Windows OS I've tried on this machine. Frankly, I feel you are expecting miracles that will never materialize.

Check your anti-virus/internet security settings; if it's scanning the disks at shutdown, that makes it take a l-o-n-g time to shut down.

well i see alot of you are running some pretty super pc's i'm running this on a laptop so that is pretty much being directed to people with laptops but all feed back is great because i'm also running an acer desktop intel quad core 2.6ghzwith 16gb ram 2mb fs bus 1gb dedicated video geforce9700and a 1tb hdd with blu-ray burner and a 42" 1080p lcd tv. my network is slow only 2.0mbs down speeds but other then that the desktop is running windows 7 beta ultimate so far no lagging and boot up times are fairly good about 25 seconds from bios screen to usable desktop with all apps running, shut down times are little inconvienent like 39 seconds to complete shutdown. now mind you its a pc home built i do plan on trying to get a dual slot cpu motherboard to run or try and run two quad core 3.0ghz processors just for the hell of speed and upgrade ram to 32gb but i can only hope for that in the next few months. plenty of feedback from you guys is great keep it coming.

I'm using a Dell Inspiron 1525 with an Intel Core 2 Duo T5750 @ 2Ghz, 2GB RAM and Intel 965 Chispet with 358MB Shared Memory (WEI score of 3.9) and my shutdown times are incredibly fast at around <20 seconds, start-up is faster than Vista (can't specifiy exact time), but i've only got Norton IS 2009 loading up and I don't run any gadgets.

i've tried to stop all start up programs and background programs even intivirus programs that like to run in the backgound still not much change in the startup times over 45-seconds shoot even over 61 seconds they have to get rid of this "STARTING WINDOWS" screen with that windows leaf wanna hear something "LAAAAME" let move on past these cute bells and whistles huh. and make it about performance 'cause in the end everyone is getting much more knowledgeable with pc's right?

quest4tribal said: well i've timed the start up and shut down times. boot up 62 seconds till desktop that's not counting the full loading of desktop apps like sidebar ____ it requires another 15 seconds to complete the rest of the apps. Which i find still kinda sluggish, shut down 37 seconds complete off that's fairly impressive. anyone still using vista I CHANLLENGE YOU ALL TO TIME IT... On my Dell Vostro 200 (Intel E6550 2.33GHz 2GB RAM) I "tri-boot" Vista 32, Win7 64, and Debian Linux 32. Not a real lab benchmark, but I made some timings and here they are: Win7 from selecting inboot manager to logon prompt: 25s Vista from selecting inboot manager to logon prompt: 29s Linux from selecting in grub to logon prompt: 25s (note: I boot to a text only environment, and manually start the GUI after logon) Win7 from logon to bringing up the taskbar: 8s Vista from logon to bringing up the taskbar: 10s Linux from startx (starts the GUI) to bringing up the taskbar: 10s (interesting how close they are; maybe they all have achieved the fastest possible for starting up hardware?) Win7 from shutdown request (via power button) to complete power off: 28s (in one of the4 attempts it gave me an impressive 17s!! couldn't repeat that though) Vista from shutdown request (via power button) to complete power off: 30s (in some occasions I've seen Vista taking about a minute to go away, but I suppose it wasdoing updates/indexing/whatever Windows does without letting us know...) Linuxfrom shutdown request (via power button) to complete power off: 12s BR,

I had a few issues as you describe at the begining, at 1 point it took over 2 mins for the pc to shutdown all the time then i had a problem i noticed 1 of my dvd drives was missing from windows i noticed my USB BUS issue with the yello ! mark, and also the chipset drivers problem looking at some forums i managed to get them and boom, my bus was working, my drives. and then sudenly the pc shut dowan all the time in a matter of 5 seconds your start up times will depend on what you also have starting up, since i have installed tons of apps, its slowed down more, because of all the junk at startup, goto msconfig, and startup, uncheck some of the things u dont need such as adobe etc. also goto your motherboards website download ALL the updated drivers, vista 32, and 64 bit drivers work ok with this version, some programes that are vista compable dont though which is weird, i think cos it does not recordnise it ? anyway remember your motherboard is the brain of the machine, it controles everything, from cpu to memory wrong drivers means slow underperforming problems same for your bios, people forget this that is the brain of it all, screw with that and u do have problems, but when was the last time u looked for an updated bios, manufacturers update them when new operatin systems come out as they know new drivers are out and they can always squeese that little bit more power from something :) so going back to your slugish issue, look at all what i have said hardware and drivers, thats your problem guaranteed you would not put diesel in a petrol car now would you :)

You wouldnt happen to have a usb hard drive plugged in also would you? The only time Windows 7 takes that long to boot for me is when I have my 500gig usb hard drive plugged in, however it does the same thing in vista also. If I unplug the drive fast boot up times once again.