i have found a few odd things that are driving me nuts. Sometimes when I download files using firefox, when the download completes i will get an error stating i do not have permission to access the destination. Also sometimes when i delete files from the desktop they will later reappear and then not let me delete them because I "do not have permission." The only way to get rid of the files is to reboot into safe mode and delete them there. Lastly I use a program that connects to the web and downloads updates. Almost every time I try to use it I get an error saying I do not have permission to access the destination and the file cannot be coppied. this all happens using the only account on the computer which is an administrater account. I have tried the program that runs the updates by right clicking and selecting to run as administrater but I get the same results. Does anyone have any ideas? I really love Windows 7 but these quirks, which I imagine are all related, are going to drive me nuts.

Just after posting I thought of one more thing to try...I disabled system protection, rebooted, and now my program can updated fine. I will report back in a day or two to see if moving and deleting files remains a problem. If this is the case....why would system protection cause this?

Still have problems with downloading files and deleting files...

Hi Kyle,Did upgrade from Vista to Windows 7 Beta?Alsocould be a "chmod" permission issue similar to those foundon Unix.In "Computer" > Tools> Options,where you have the setting"Show All Hidden Folders", you can scroll a bit further down and there will be a checkbox tickedfor "Use Simple File Sharing (recommended)". Uncheck that and click OK.Now when you right-click on the folder there will be an extra tab called Security Settings.Trytaking ownership of the files/foldersand givingyourusername (not the"Administrators" group)Full Access to the files/folders.Henry [CPU] - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 @ 2.50 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB [MOBO] - Gigabyte EP35-DS4 F2 [RAM] - 2 x 2GB (4GB) Transcend DDR2 SDRAM 800MHz [GPU] - Galaxy Geforce 9800GTX [SFX1] - Realtek High Definition Audio (ALC889A) [SFX2] - ASUS XONAR D2 (USB2.0) [HDD1] - 500GB Western Digital 7200RPM / Partition 1 - WinXP Pro SP2 32-bit (Clean install) / Partition 2 - Win7 Beta (Build 7000) 64-bit (Clean install) [HDD2] - 120GB Western Digital 7200RPM [LCD] - 17" Samsung Syncmaster 240N [HID1] - Microsoft Habu (2,000 DPI) [HID2] - Logitech LX 710 Laser Mouse (1,100 DPI) [KBD] - Logitech Wireless Desktop LX 710 Keyboard [MIC] - ASUS Array Microphone

this is a fresh install of windows 7. when i go into computer there is no tools menu. the closest thing i could find to your directions was organize, folder and search options, view, and then uncheck use sharing wizard which did nothing. i did notice if i go to the properties for the c drive under security my username was not listed so i added it with full permission and will see if that helps.

Yes! I am, actually... I'll try to delete something and it will appear to do so, but a quick F5 refresh of the window reveals it didn't go anywhere. Eventually, the file disappears. It appears to be an issue with search indexing, although I don't have any quick way of resolving it.

OK, this problem is really beginning to drive me NUTS!What really makes me mad about this is that it seems to only occur with EXE files. They seem to be getting locked by the System account.

I seem to be having the same problem, or something similar. When trying to looking at ownership of the files it shows me it's unable to show the current owner, and when actually trying to take owner ship I get access denied. This happens whether UAC is on or of, and it even happens with the built-in administrator account, which I enable just to test this. This is really annoying as I have several programs that update every day, and in that process get inaccessible. It doesn't seem to be only exe files that changed recently though. Some of my old programs' exe files in a backup location suddenly turn inaccessible as well, and it seems random which files do, sometimes there are 5 exe files in a folder and only 2 get inaccessible.

I didn't ugprade, if that's what you're suggesting. This was a clean install on a freshly partitioned and formatted drive.In any case, what you're describing is exactly the issue, so any ideas on a resolution, work-around, or just an explanation of why is appreciated.

(Sorry, I was re-editing when you posted)No. I just live with it. It sucks.

Meh. You've been much more tolerant than I would be, because living with it is NOT an acceptable solution.I think this is either related to the Volume Shadow Copy service or Windows Search Indexing, but I haven't been able to pinpoint it precisely. But whatever it is, it has got to be fixed... I can't even download/replace files properly because of this.This type of issue is definitely a potential "show stopper" issue.

Pssh, what's to be confused about? Libraries are incredibly simple and useful, and at this point I have almost a dozen of them setup. I'm not even being sarcastic... I think they're an absolutely wonderful tool (and if you disagree, so be it, just ignore them).But what does that have to do with the permissions issue? I don't want copies, I want to replace existing, and I can't currently do that without experiencing this at least 3-4 times a day.

I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion at all... I'm a system administrator... I download drivers, updates, and software installers quite often. I'm also incredibly organized, and I happen to find a lot of benefit to the libraries.If it was the result of libraries, you wouldn't experience the issue on Vista, and I wouldn't have had the issue before using libraries, and I would only experience them in locations touched by the libraries I've setup.Edited for Relevance and Respectful Posting

Well now that we're on the same page, I'm with you, lol...I was actually thinking it might be something with volume shadow copying because of the fact it is trying to keep previous versions, but indexing was also seeming likely just from the standpoint that if the index isn't updated fast enough it would cause that behavior.

Like GoodThings2Life, I am running a fresh install, and not an upgrade. Besides that I have completely turned off indexing and have not really looked into the library-feature yet. What I do use are junctions and symlinks but nothing to do with the affected .exe files so I doubt they have any effect on this problem. I just disabled the volume shadow copy service (don't need it anyway), perhaps it will make a difference...

GoodThings2Life said: I didn't ugprade, if that's what you're suggesting. This was a clean install on a freshly partitioned and formatted drive.In any case, what you're describing is exactly the issue, so any ideas on a resolution, work-around, or just an explanation of why is appreciated. HiI think what egads was referring to was the fact that some users have never used Vista. They are coming directly from XP. Windows Vistaincluded a lot of radical changes with the way users interact with the system. Especially in the area of Security, Permissions and User Rights and Privileges. If a user never had Vista installed, they are seeing the second generation of many of these changes, without the benefit of learning and working withthe first generation. It's like putting a jigsaw puzzle together with all of the pieces turned upside down. These users have a lot of catching up to do.Just a short list of these changes are: UAC File, folder,and registry virtualization Permissions on user account folders as opposed to system folders Permisions on files created on the system volume, as opposed to imported files User account tokens, least privilege user concept Symbolic Links and Junctions Mandatoryintegrity levels And much more Tip when postingon these forums:Although when you click reply to respond to the information in thelast message that you see in a thread, by the time you finish composing your reply, there may be other messages posted before you click the Submit Button. If you do not enter the name of the user you are replying to, or quote the message you are replying to, yourpostwill be out of context with the conversation and it is difficult to determine exactly what message you intended to address?In any thread, it's best to click the Quote Button when you reply (like I did here).This makes it very clearand much easier to follow the conversation. If the quoted message is too long, you can always select and delete parts of the quoted message.There is nothing more frustrating than to read a message that simply states, "YES that fixedmy problem" when this message was preceded by 3 or moreother messages that describe completely different ways to fix that problem?Hope this helps. Ronnie Vernon MVP

Ronnie,I appreciate the helpful tips, although I'm not sure how relevant they are to the discussion, since it doesn't appear to me that anyone has hinted at confusion on the topic.In any case... this is NOT an issue of familiarity between XP and Vista, and I don't see how that has been relevant at any point in this thread. This is an issue of the OS not releasing locks on files appropriately and/or not updating the file system in a timely manner. This is an issue of a process or thread that is preventing replacment/deletion of files, and is therefore a bug.I had assumed this thread was started for the purpose of seeking a resolution to the issue since it's clear that several people have experienced it, and there have been a few of us willing to troubleshoot and document our findings.

This is another thread dealing with the same issue. I have also seen people post about this issue on other forums; it seems to be happening to quite a few people.

Your short list is exactly why I "bagged" Vista. Now I am in the same boat with Win7 64 RC. I log on as admin and cant access some files. (Example: c:/documents and settings) I check the UAC and all boxes are checked for permission execpt the special. Although the boxes are checked they seem to be shadowed or greyed. I read something about this but can not find it again.New Install to clean disks (new disks & new machine) Everything seems to be fine if I could only get permission to administrate my machine.Tried a reload everything went fine. Problem still existed after reload. Tried a .bat file and a msfile subinacl.msi.It failed to install, probably because of a permission. The digital demons have me, HELP!

Hope maybe you can help me. I'm trying to use PCMover to migrate files and programs from an XP machine to a new Windows 7 machine. I have shared the Windows 7 c drive with everyone in my existing workgroup allowing full access. While the XP machine sees the shared c drive, it is not allowing XP access. I would assume that PCMover needs XP to have access to Windows 7 C drive to transfer the files and programs to the correct location. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

"I think what egads was referring to was the fact that some users have never used Vista."Then they should run it at their own risk. I'm a very experienced user an since computers have been "made simple" for people who don't know how to use them. they've been impossible to use.Renee