Windows installer deletes user favorites on Drive D

Much of Windows 8.1 reinstalling Windows in a User-preferred way is great, but it can backfire, badly. Windows 8.1 Full Version (Pro) cleaned Drive C using DiskPart.exe as per usual and installed Windows 8.1 to Drive C. During installation Windows installer specifically targeted and deleted all Favorites from Drive D where all user file copies are stored between installations. No other user files were deleted.

Related? Favorites was included in Windows 8.0/early 8.1 personal folders, and is no longer located there: all personal folders including Favorites were typically moved to Drive D disk, including Favorites from C:\Users\Favorites, when it was removed from Personal Folders (Regedit, namespace keys). On the one occasion where Windows installer mistakenly deleted Drive D favorites, Windows installer was replacing a Windows installation where favorites were uniquely copied to Drive C default location, rather than being moved to Drive D. This was the only occasion when Windows installer 'attacked' user files, and this was the only occasion where my Microsoft Windows 8.1 Account 'experienced' favorites being copied from another drive to the C drive (rather than the usual folder properties Location change).

First, has anyone else been effected by this bug (irregularity)? Second, since Windows reinstallation is 'pre-empting' and making decisions concerning user data, Should not the Account interface provide a way for the User to manage what is otherwise reckless installer behavior (other than the end-game Start screen Account layout Synch, obviously)? Minor Registry bug, or new installer functionality surf

February 10th, 2014 8:31pm

Hi,

The problem is weird, since the clean installation of Windows 8.1 on C drive will not affect anything on your D drive.

To identify the issue, would you please let me know the step-by-step you did to move Favorite folders?

We will try to repro what you mentioned to check the results.

 

Thanks for your cooperation.

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February 12th, 2014 8:55am

Windows 8.1 has been seen to "clean things up".  Personally I think it's appalling that Microsoft would delete peoples' files.  But they do.

For example, if one does a refresh type install and a Windows.old folder is created, something (a scheduled task?  the Maintenance facility?) will sweep through some days later and delete bunches of files.

Imagine that there might have been a link in there somewhere that pointed to another disk drive.  Now imagine the clean-up process romping and stomping through, and accidentally following that link...

I'm not saying this explains what happened, but it does point out that Microsoft's policy of deleting user data has serious flaws.

 

February 12th, 2014 9:47am

Kate Li,

Thank you for your interest. Did I note that R & D engineers from three Teams (setup, activation, security) have been looking at my machine?

Microsoft account server restores favorites after 3 days

PROBLEM... Three days after Windows 8.1 OS installation deleted my Favortites (see above), Microsoft Account server restored the files that Windows Setup mistakenly deleted. Set aside 5 hours + to integrate finally restored favorites. Thanks people, kindly continue reading.

Open Internet Explorer.

Right click top bar to show Favorites. Click top right corner favorites star.

Drag and drop new address bar links onto star to place in root "Favorites" folder. Favorites folder links must be manually removed one-by-one using right click. Links can also be dragged between folders.

(note that contents of "Favorites bar" folder are displayed across top of browser window when Favorites bar is showing. "Favorites bar" is shown in the Favorites Star dropdown. When "Favorites" toolbar is selected, "Favortites bar" toolbar should be a Favorites toolbar dropdown menu-tree explored and well-adapted in Vista+ versions, but hidden in Windows 8.1 since Favorites is removed and replaced by just "Favorites bar". When "Favorites bar" toolbar is selected, existing 2013 Windows 8.1 favorites toolbar shows. This unique favorites architecture easily added to existing Windows Internet Explorer will offer huge customer benefits...

(note that each drag-and-drop Favorites Star menu action immediately closes menu as if there was only one action to perform! Internet Explorer Favorites Star drop menu is missing a standard active-x functionality built into Windows, and very oddly missing from the Star menu. Favorites Star drop menu should lock in place until star is clicked to close, so that users can select and maintain multiple links using copy, move, delete actions without the menu constantly closing after each desktop (office) action...

So two things for R & D to fix.

1.) Add "Favorites" on top of "Favorites bar" to browser top bar right right-click options, adding options to open in File Explorer or add-remove from toolbar display.

2.) Adapt current Favorites Star drop menu to include missing active-X Click-To-Close action, for easy favorites links and folders management... without (#$$$) slamming after every mouse action, interrupting work-flow!!!

WORKAROUND.

Windows browser Favorites benefit from extensive OS security oversight. One unfortunate result of this oversight is that large favorites collections in fact destabilize the entire Operating System. Oversight also means that favorites management is exceedingly cumbersome.

We have implemented two advanced but helpful Favorites customizations that allow user to open two or more important link folders in File Explorer, so that links can be reasonably managed: one folder is the default C:\Users\Favorites folder and the other folder is a large collection of personal links (personal links folder contains an archive of over 2,000 Internet links (a quantity far too large for Windows to store in default oversight Favorites location). Here now are the two folder path links added to the Favorites Star root folder (using File Explorer to create and add the links manually to the default Favorites folder):

C:\Users\username\Favorites
Drive:\archive folder name
Drive:\another archive folder name 

Due to Microsoft's favorites oversight preoccupation, security for archived links in other local locations is simply managed by traditional Windows Defender or third party security. Outside of the Internet Favorites folder security zone, in regular User folders. The oversight zone is extremely helpful in front-end Internet applications. However, Users require more default flexibility in management of a system-wide local favorites. The two-plus folder customization described above offers advanced users quick and easy customization, for the existing Favorites architecture only. Change is coming!

The click-to-close Favorites Star Menu is needed. "Favorites" and "Favorites bar" right click top bar accessalso further implements existing security, customer easy-of-use, and work-flow.

  • Edited by Wonder Only Wonder 13 hours 32 minutes ago separate problem and solution (IE favorites interface
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February 12th, 2014 4:12pm

PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE FILE EXPLORER linking functionality from IE favorites toolbar and-or Star menu. Rather, please do add File Explorer menu and right click access for IE favorites linking to File Explorer. THis provides countless work-flow improvements.

Internet Explorer and File Explorer easy user cross-linking ESSENTIAL!

 

BURB! There is NO ability to drag and drop folder links from File Explorer onto IE toolbars and menus. Do we have to wait for next version of Windows for that basic functionality?

February 12th, 2014 5:32pm

Noel,

No OS is perfect. Last "stable" Ubuntu formatted one of my user disks (drive E) without prompting. Just a few months ago, not back in the Dark Ages! Particularity of the Microsoft OS irregularity detailed in this discussion highlights optimal performance in most instances.

Modern disks are inexpensive and easily installed (SSD today's small office/home preference). Store your user goods on a simple USB stick, if you like. Using Drive C for OS and Applications/Apps only, greatly improves system performance and health. Think colliding galaxies, and let your disks spin in peace. 64 vs. x86 a whole other enigma.

(((aka conund

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February 12th, 2014 5:46pm

PERHAPS move from new location to default install location for Account system imprint - undo move and copy, reboot then run OS installation...
PREVIOUS same move-undo-copy 3 weeks before with/without diskpart, with diskpart start menu chaos on new OS... reassess results personal favs deletion...

irregularity vs. bug = hopefully the former

February 12th, 2014 6:45pm

Kate Li,

Thank you for your interest. Did I note that R & D engineers from three Teams (setup, activation, security) have been looking at my machine?

Microsoft account server restores favorites after 3 days

PROBLEM... Three days after Windows 8.1 OS installation deleted my Favortites (see above), Microsoft Account server restored the files that Windows Setup mistakenly deleted. Set aside 5 hours + to integrate finally restored favorites. Thanks people, kindly continue reading.

Open Internet Explorer.

Right click top bar to show Favorites. Click top right corner favorites star.

Drag and drop new address bar links onto star to place in root "Favorites" folder. Favorites folder links must be manually removed one-by-one using right click. Links can also be dragged between folders.

(note that contents of "Favorites bar" folder are displayed across top of browser window when Favorites bar is showing. "Favorites bar" is shown in the Favorites Star dropdown. When "Favorites" toolbar is selected, "Favortites bar" toolbar should be a Favorites toolbar dropdown menu-tree explored and well-adapted in Vista+ versions, but hidden in Windows 8.1 since Favorites is removed and replaced by just "Favorites bar". When "Favorites bar" toolbar is selected, existing 2013 Windows 8.1 favorites toolbar shows. This unique favorites architecture easily added to existing Windows Internet Explorer will offer huge customer benefits...

(note that each drag-and-drop Favorites Star menu action immediately closes menu as if there was only one action to perform! Internet Explorer Favorites Star drop menu is missing a standard active-x functionality built into Windows, and very oddly missing from the Star menu. Favorites Star drop menu should lock in place until star is clicked to close, so that users can select and maintain multiple links using copy, move, delete actions without the menu constantly closing after each desktop (office) action...

So two things for R & D to fix.

1.) Add "Favorites" on top of "Favorites bar" to browser top bar right right-click options, adding options to open in File Explorer or add-remove from toolbar display.

2.) Adapt current Favorites Star drop menu to include missing active-X Click-To-Close action, for easy favorites links and folders management... without (#$$$) slamming after every mouse action, interrupting work-flow!!!

WORKAROUND.

Windows browser Favorites benefit from extensive OS security oversight. One unfortunate result of this oversight is that large favorites collections in fact destabilize the entire Operating System. Oversight also means that favorites management is exceedingly cumbersome.

We have implemented two advanced but helpful Favorites customizations that allow user to open two or more important link folders in File Explorer, so that links can be reasonably managed: one folder is the default C:\Users\Favorites folder and the other folder is a large collection of personal links (personal links folder contains an archive of over 2,000 Internet links (a quantity far too large for Windows to store in default oversight Favorites location). Here now are the two folder path links added to the Favorites Star root folder (using File Explorer to create and add the links manually to the default Favorites folder):

C:\Users\username\Favorites
Drive:\archive folder name
Drive:\another archive folder name 

Due to Microsoft's favorites oversight preoccupation, security for archived links in other local locations is simply managed by traditional Windows Defender or third party security. Outside of the Internet Favorites folder security zone, in regular User folders. The oversight zone is extremely helpful in front-end Internet applications. However, Users require more default flexibility in management of a system-wide local favorites. The two-plus folder customization described above offers advanced users quick and easy customization, for the existing Favorites architecture only. Change is coming!

The click-to-close Favorites Star Menu is needed. "Favorites" and "Favorites bar" right click top bar accessalso further implements existing security, customer easy-of-use, and work-flow.

  • Edited by Wonder Only Wonder Wednesday, February 12, 2014 10:16 PM separate problem and solution (IE favorites interface
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February 13th, 2014 12:08am

Kate Li,

Thank you for your interest. Did I note that R & D engineers from three Teams (setup, activation, security) have been looking at my machine?

Microsoft account server restores favorites after 3 days

PROBLEM... Three days after Windows 8.1 OS installation deleted my Favortites (see above), Microsoft Account server restored the files that Windows Setup mistakenly deleted. Set aside 5 hours + to integrate finally restored favorites. Thanks people, kindly continue reading.

Open Internet Explorer.

Right click top bar to show Favorites. Click top right corner favorites star.

Drag and drop new address bar links onto star to place in root "Favorites" folder. Favorites folder links must be manually removed one-by-one using right click. Links can also be dragged between folders.

(note that contents of "Favorites bar" folder are displayed across top of browser window when Favorites bar is showing. "Favorites bar" is shown in the Favorites Star dropdown. When "Favorites" toolbar is selected, "Favortites bar" toolbar should be a Favorites toolbar dropdown menu-tree explored and well-adapted in Vista+ versions, but hidden in Windows 8.1 since Favorites is removed and replaced by just "Favorites bar". When "Favorites bar" toolbar is selected, existing 2013 Windows 8.1 favorites toolbar shows. This unique favorites architecture easily added to existing Windows Internet Explorer will offer huge customer benefits...

(note that each drag-and-drop Favorites Star menu action immediately closes menu as if there was only one action to perform! Internet Explorer Favorites Star drop menu is missing a standard active-x functionality built into Windows, and very oddly missing from the Star menu. Favorites Star drop menu should lock in place until star is clicked to close, so that users can select and maintain multiple links using copy, move, delete actions without the menu constantly closing after each desktop (office) action...

So two things for R & D to fix.

1.) Add "Favorites" on top of "Favorites bar" to browser top bar right right-click options, adding options to open in File Explorer or add-remove from toolbar display.

2.) Adapt current Favorites Star drop menu to include missing active-X Click-To-Close action, for easy favorites links and folders management... without (#$$$) slamming after every mouse action, interrupting work-flow!!!

WORKAROUND.

Windows browser Favorites benefit from extensive OS security oversight. One unfortunate result of this oversight is that large favorites collections in fact destabilize the entire Operating System. Oversight also means that favorites management is exceedingly cumbersome.

We have implemented two advanced but helpful Favorites customizations that allow user to open two or more important link folders in File Explorer, so that links can be reasonably managed: one folder is the default C:\Users\Favorites folder and the other folder is a large collection of personal links (personal links folder contains an archive of over 2,000 Internet links (a quantity far too large for Windows to store in default oversight Favorites location). Here now are the two folder path links added to the Favorites Star root folder (using File Explorer to create and add the links manually to the default Favorites folder):

C:\Users\username\Favorites
Drive:\archive folder name
Drive:\another archive folder name 

Due to Microsoft's favorites oversight preoccupation, security for archived links in other local locations is simply managed by traditional Windows Defender or third party security. Outside of the Internet Favorites folder security zone, in regular User folders. The oversight zone is extremely helpful in front-end Internet applications. However, Users require more default flexibility in management of a system-wide local favorites. The two-plus folder customization described above offers advanced users quick and easy customization, for the existing Favorites architecture only. Change is coming!

The click-to-close Favorites Star Menu is needed. "Favorites" and "Favorites bar" right click top bar accessalso further implements existing security, customer easy-of-use, and work-flow.

  • Edited by Wonder Only Wonder Wednesday, February 12, 2014 10:16 PM separate problem and solution (IE favorites interface
February 13th, 2014 12:08am

Using Drive C for OS and Applications/Apps only, greatly improves system performance and health.

No, that's exactly backwards.

Using volume C: (where C: is composed of multiple physical drives in RAID 0) for everything in the modern environment of high throughput low latency gargantuan space I/O is the best approach for best performance and health.

Just think for a moment where everything gets the most testing (hint: default installation path).  And we know most developers test quality in.

 

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February 13th, 2014 1:14am

Using Drive C for OS and Applications/Apps only, greatly improves system performance and health.

No, that's exactly backwards.

Using volume C: (where C: is composed of multiple physical drives in RAID 0) for everything in the modern environment of high throughput low latency gargantuan space I/O is the best approach for best performance and health.

Just think for a moment where everything gets the most testing (hint: default installation path).  And we know most developers test quality in.

 

February 15th, 2014 9:28pm

I have to admit I find it difficult to follow your way of writing, but I'll say this:

I don't accept arbitrary limitations.

You can set up RAID without much trouble on virtually any desktop system made in the last 5 years, and actually a good bit longer than that if you didn't buy junk.

But even without RAID, we have been able to install hardware that is both fast and huge for quite a long time now.  2 TB HDDs have been around a long while, and 1 TB SSDs are available for mail order today.  Just 2 x 1 TB SSDs plugged-into SATA ports on a modern motherboard give you access to the kind of gigabyte per second, near zero latency system responsiveness that was only a dream at the turn of the millennium with any budget.  And now mere mortals can afford it.

And external backup drives that can make system images of multi-terabyte boot volumes are available for a song.

This isn't pie-in-the-sky stuff; my head isn't in the cloud(s).  I'm doing what I'm advising right now.

 

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February 16th, 2014 4:09am

Yes. agree with you there. All I was saying, I guess, is the heavier your payload, the slower you go. On the other hand, the more R&D works on speeding up this new Windows 8.1 OS, the faster she goes. Every previous version of Microsoft OS to my recollection, performance outcomes were... exactly backwards. This is incredible. Now if only Adobe could stop its 3rd party crew demolishing all the good work Microsoft has done.
February 19th, 2014 6:01pm

Hi,

The problem is weird, since the clean installation of Windows 8.1 on C drive will not affect anything on your D drive.

To identify the issue, would you please let me know the step-by-step you did to move Favorite folders?

We will try to repro what you mentioned to check the results.

 

Thanks for your coopera

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March 8th, 2014 3:46am

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