Windows Credentials - Where to get more details?
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August 13th, 2009 9:07pm
Hi,
Thank you for posting.
If you want to check the credential stored on your computer, please go to Control Panel\User Accounts\Credential Manager.
Please let me know if this is what you want. If not, please let me know your concern in detail. Thanks!Nicholas Li - MSFT
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August 19th, 2009 1:36pm
Greetings and thanks for the reply Nicholas,I'd like to read more detailed information about this new feature. Mainly to figure out where did that "virtualapp/didlogical" generic credential came from:Regards and thanks.
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August 19th, 2009 2:36pm
Nicholas, any clue about this generic credential?Thanks.W7 RTM x64 running along with Office 2010 x64 TP hope my computer won't crash! ;)
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August 25th, 2009 12:28pm
I too am seeing the same issue. Only a few known changes to my system recently, some MS updates and installed MS Virtual Server. Thinking it may have something to do with VS.
August 26th, 2009 6:10pm
I too am seeing the same issue. Only a few known changes to my system recently, some MS updates and installed MS Virtual Server. Thinking it may have something to do with VS.
I hope so, because I really don't like the idea to have applications adding "credentials" there without my acknowledge.That might lead in other security issues.Regards.If it was helpful, please vote! Si te ayud, por favor vota!
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August 26th, 2009 7:04pm
I too am seeing the same issue. Only a few known changes to my system recently, some MS updates and installed MS Virtual Server. Thinking it may have something to do with VS.
Can we exchange a list of programs installed to look for coincidences?RegardsIf it was helpful, please vote! Si te ayud, por favor vota!
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August 27th, 2009 3:44pm
Hi,
Thank you for your updates.
I checked our new-installed Windows 7 computers and found this item doesnt exist. I suspect this may be related to a specific application and we will perform some further researches. If we get some information, we will share with you.
Thanks again for your efforts. Nicholas Li - MSFT
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August 28th, 2009 7:53am
Thanks Nicholas. Even though I manually remove the entry from the credentials manager, it keeps auto adding to it over and over again.May I help in any way, like providing a full list of installed programs or whatever?ThanksIf it was helpful, please vote! Si te ayud, por favor vota!
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August 28th, 2009 9:42am
Hi,
Thank you. If it possible, a full list of installed programs is highly appreciated; after getting this, we will try them one by one and see if we can find it out. Nicholas Li - MSFT
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August 28th, 2009 10:00am
Hello Nicholas,2 computers, same issue. Let me check what same apps are installed in both machines and I'll give you a comprehensive list.Want me to post it here or e-mail?RegardsIf it was helpful, please vote! Si te ayud, por favor vota!
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August 28th, 2009 10:43am
Do you have the Virtual PC bits installed?
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August 28th, 2009 11:22am
Do you have the Virtual PC bits installed?
August 28th, 2009 11:22am
Hello,I do have the Windows Virtual PC only in the desktop. Since I can see the same "generic credential" in both computers, I've discarded my suspicions in this program.Let's see if I can figure out what's going on.Regards and thanksIf it was helpful, please vote! Si te ayud, por favor vota!
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August 28th, 2009 11:28am
Nicholas,the following is a comprehensive list of applications installed in my laptop, where I'm able to see the "generic credential" added too. Most of applications are installed in my desktop as well. Minot differences between both computers.
7-Zip 4.64
Ad-Aware
Adobe Flash Player 10 ActiveX
Adobe Flash Player 10 Plugin
Adobe Reader 9.1.3
Avira AntiVir Personal - Free Antivirus Avira GmbH
Bullzip PDF Printer 6.0.0.766
CCleaner (remove only)
GIMP 2.6.6 GPL Ghostscript Lite 8.63
ImgBurn LIGHTNING UK!
Java 2 Runtime Environment, SE v1.4.2_19
Java(TM) 6 Update 15
K-Lite Codec Pack 5.0.5 (Full)
Windows Automated Installation Kit
Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 (5.0.1631.0)
Microsoft Office Professional 2010 (Technical Preview)
Microsoft Office Send-a-Smile
Microsoft Outlook Connector 32-bit
Microsoft Silverlight
Microsoft Sync Framework Runtime Native v1.0 (x86)
Microsoft Sync Framework Services Native v1.0 (x86)
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.30729.17
mIRC
NVIDIA Drivers
Picasa 3
PowerISO
Spelling Dictionaries Support For Adobe Reader 9
StartEd 5.30
Steam Valve Corporation 24/08/2009 1,49 MB
Vista Shortcut Manager
Windows Live ID Sign Asisstant
Windows Live Essentials
Laptop: Windows 7 Pro x86 RTM. RegardsIf it was helpful, please vote! Si te ayud, por favor vota!
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August 29th, 2009 8:25pm
OK the ones I have that match are the following
Adobe Flash Player 10 ActiveX
Adobe Flash Player 10 Plugin
Adobe Reader 9.1.3
ImgBurn LIGHTNING UK!
Microsoft Silverlight
Microsoft Sync Framework Runtime Native v1.0 (x86)
Microsoft Sync Framework Services Native v1.0 (x86)
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.30729.17
NVIDIA Drivers
Windows Live ID Sign Asisstant
Windows Live Essentials
My gut feeling is it's still an OS credential for something.
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August 30th, 2009 1:41pm
OK the ones I have that match are the following
Adobe Flash Player 10 ActiveX
Adobe Flash Player 10 Plugin
Adobe Reader 9.1.3
ImgBurn LIGHTNING UK!
Microsoft Silverlight
Microsoft Sync Framework Runtime Native v1.0 (x86)
Microsoft Sync Framework Services Native v1.0 (x86)
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.30729.17
NVIDIA Drivers
Windows Live ID Sign Asisstant
Windows Live Essentials
My gut feeling is it's still an OS credential for something.
August 30th, 2009 1:41pm
Hello blowdart,do you have that credential there?Regards.If it was helpful, please vote! Si te ayud, por favor vota!
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August 30th, 2009 1:50pm
Yup. Slightly different username, obviously, but Virtual Apps are the things inside XP mode.
August 30th, 2009 1:52pm
Yup. Slightly different username, obviously, but Virtual Apps are the things inside XP mode.
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August 30th, 2009 1:52pm
Yup. Slightly different username, obviously, but Virtual Apps are the things inside XP mode.
But, my point is... why do I have that credential in a laptop where is not installed neither the Windows Virtual PC nor the XP Mode?
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August 30th, 2009 1:58pm
Didyou use the windows easy transfer wizard at any time? The credential may have been transfered that way?I also have this crendential on my Win 7 laptop.Further clarification would be appreciated.
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September 5th, 2009 2:30pm
No, havent' used ETW.ThanksIf it was helpful, please vote! Si te ayud, por favor vota!
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September 5th, 2009 2:44pm
Hi,
Thank you. If it possible, a full list of installed programs is highly appreciated; after getting this, we will try them one by one and see if we can find it out.
Nicholas Li - MSFT
Hello Nicholas,long time since your last reply. Is there any clue on this?Regards.If it was helpful, please vote! Si te ayud, por favor vota!
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September 18th, 2009 11:26am
Methinks it is Windows Live. But I don't know exactly why.MAC
September 26th, 2009 2:16am
Maybe this comes from Windows Live as PRCMAC's reply. On Windows XP native mode there is samefunction/feature forshared directory access,remote desktop and etc, but no explicit manager for it.In my opinionit is agood and convenient feature for outgoing access.
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October 30th, 2009 9:14pm
Me too.
January 27th, 2010 10:58am
I used easy tranfer lately with a cable and software from BelkinOn HP z400 workstation, W7, 64
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January 27th, 2010 10:59am
It is really too bad MS didn't enable printing or select and copy on the transfer report. I can screenshot it, but what a hastle.
January 27th, 2010 11:01am
WindowsLive:target=virtualapp/didlogical Generic 02TYCLHJTCFK MS,password 2010-01-26 8:51:16 AM Microsoft_WindowsLive:authstate:1417 Local Machine It is a part of Windows live. Not sure if it's for autoload of media; or messenger yet.
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February 4th, 2010 3:32am
i also have w7 rtm x32 with office 2010; also have virtualapp/didlogical issue and i'm running windows live. just for additional input. i notice this issue was first posted before w7 was officially released--jdevesa--were you running w7 prior to that time?
any more input--anyone? thanks--this has been a very helpful dialogue.
March 23rd, 2010 2:13am
i also have w7 rtm x32 with office 2010; also have virtualapp/didlogical issue and i'm running windows live. just for additional input. i notice this issue was first posted before w7 was officially released--jdevesa--were you running w7 prior to that time?
any more input--anyone? thanks--this has been a very helpful dialogue.
Hello,
yes, I've been running Windows 7 since the Beta and TechNet Subscribers got the final version earlier, that's why the thread started before the general release.
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March 23rd, 2010 9:24am
Hi all,
It seems like this mystery has been the "thorn in the lion's paw", so to speak, for a long time. Well, I don't have the solution,
but I have more data that can help the experts narrow down the list of possible "culprits" even further.
First, I am running
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit on a brand new
Gateway FX6831-1 desktop that was
manufactured 01/10. Windows 7 came preinstalled. I did not use any type
of transfer programs when upgrading to the new Desktop (i.e. it's not something related to Windows XP).
This is the unknown entry that I have in my
Credential Manager as well as
all software installed on my system:
Generic Credentials
virtualapp/didlogical Modified: 4/10/2010
Internet or network address: virtualapp/didlogical
User name: 02xxxxxxxxxx
Password: XXXXXXXX
Persistence: Local Machine
ALL INSTALLED SOFTWARE
2007 Microsoft Office system Version 12.0.6524.5003
ABBYY (BIT Software) - FineReader Version 6.0.0.1395
Acer - Recovery Management Version 4.05.3004.1
Acer - Updater Client Version 1.0.4.9
Acer Incorporated - Global Registration Version 1.01.2001
Acer Incorporated - InfoCentre Version 3.02.2000
Acer Incorporated - Welcome Center Version 1.00.3005
Acer Update Service Version 1, 0, 0, 6
Adobe Acrobat Version 9.3.0.148
Adobe Reader and Acrobat Manager Version 1.1.5.0
Adobe Reader Version 9.3.0.148
Advanced Micro Devices Inc. - Catalyst Control Centre Version 2.0.0.0
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. - Catalyst Control Center Version 1, 0, 0, 1
WinRAR Version 3.90.0.0
AMD External Events Version 6.14.11.1051
Apple Inc. - Bonjour Version 2.0.0.34
Apple Inc. - iTunes Version 9.1.0.79
Apple Inc. - QuickTime QuickTime 7.6.6 (1671)
Apple Mobile Device Service Version 3.0.0.0
Apple Software Update Version 2.1.2
ArcSoft Connect Version 1.1.0.47
Ashampoo Internet Accelerator 3 Version 3
ATI Technologies Inc. - Catalyst Control Centre Version 2.0.0.0
Belarc, Inc. - Advisor Version 8.1m
BitTorrent Version 6.4.0.18095
BitTorrent, Inc. - µTorrent Version 2.0.1.19248
Blizzard Launcher Version 2, 1, 1, 1462
Blizzard Repair Utility Version 3, 0, 1, 297
Check Point Software Technologies LTD - TrueVector Service Version 9.1.008.000
Check Point Software Technologies LTD - ZoneAlarm Client Version 9.1.008.000
ChessBase GmbH - ChessProgram 12 UI Version 12, 0, 0, 1
ChessBase Reader Version 1, 0, 0, 2
Cisco Systems, Inc. - Network Magic Version 5.5.09170.0
Cisco Systems, Inc. - Pure Networks Platform Version 11.2.09170.0
Creative ALchemy AL6 Licensing Service Version 2.80.12.6
Creative ALchemy Version 1.0.0.0
Creative Audio Engine Licensing Service Version 2.80.12.6
Creative Audio Service Version 1.0.0.0
Creative Product Registration Version 2.10.11.0
Creative Software AutoUpdate Version 1.0.0.0
Creative System Information Version 2.0.0.0
Creative Technology Ltd - THXAudio Version 1.0.6.0
Creative Technology Ltd - WoWAudio.exe Version 1.0.0.0
Crintsoft - MiniLyrics Version 7.0.564.0
Deep Fritz 11
Deep Rybka 3
Deep Shredder 11 UCI
Digital River Inc. - Microsoft Office Suite Activation Assistant Version 2.9.0.0
DivX Control Panel Version 1.1.0.9
DivX Converter Version 8.0.0.54
DivX Player Version 10, 1, 0, 432
DivXNetworks Inc. - Config App. Version 2, 0, 0, 1
Flash10e.ocx
GDSMux
GSpot Codec Information Appliance Version 2, 7, 0, 1
Identity Card Version 1.00.3002
Igor Pavlov - 7-Zip Version 4.65
Inmatrix LTD - Zoom Player Version 7.0.0.0
Intel Corporation - RAID Event Monitor Version 8.9.4.1004
Intel Corporation - RAID Monitor Version 8.9.4.1004
Intel Active Management Technology Local Manageability Service Version 6.0.0.1184
Intel Management & Security Application User Notification Service Version 6.0.0.1184
Intel Matrix Storage Console Version 8.9.4.1004
IObit - Advanced SystemCare 3 Version 3.5.0.0
IObit - Smart Defrag Version 1.4.0.0
JMB36X IDE Setup
Kaspersky Anti-Virus Version 9.0.0.736
Logitech SetPoint Version 4.90.80
Logitech SetPoint Version 6.00.84
Logitech, Inc. - Unifying Software Version 1.10.38
Media Player - Codec Pack Version 3.9.5.310
Microsoft Clip Organizer Version 12.0.6423.1000
Microsoft Corporation - Windows Live Writer Version 14.0.8089.0726
Microsoft Corporation - Internet Explorer Version 8.00.7600.16385
Microsoft Corporation - Office Diagnostics Service Version 12.0.6413.1000
Microsoft Corporation - Office Diagnostics Version 12.0.6413.1000
Microsoft Corporation - Office Source Engine Version 12.0.4518.1014
Microsoft Corporation - Silverlight Plug-In Version 3.0.50106.0
Microsoft Corporation - Windows Installer - Unicode Version 5.0.7600.16385
Microsoft Corporation - Windows Live Call Version 14.0.8064.0206
Microsoft Corporation - Windows Live Mail Version 14.0.8089.0726
Microsoft Corporation - Windows Live Movie Maker Version 14.0.8091.0730
Microsoft Corporation - Windows Live Photo Gallery Version 14.0.8081
Microsoft Corporation - Windows Search Version 7.00.7600.16385
Microsoft Office InfoPath Version 12.0.4518.1014
Microsoft Office Isolated Converter Environment Version 12.0.6413.1000
Microsoft Office OneNote Version 12.0.6500.5000
Microsoft Office Picture Manager Version 12.0.6413.1000
Microsoft Open XML Converter Version 12.0.6413.1000
Microsoft Windows Script Host Version 5.8.7600.16385
Microsoft .NET Framework Version 2.0.50727.4927
Microsoft .NET Framework Version 3.0.6920.4902
Microsoft Windows Live ID Version 6.500.3146.0
Microsoft Windows Operating System Version 12.0.7600.16385
Nero AG - Cover Designer Version 4.4.12.100
Nero BackItUp Version 4.2.3.100
Nero Burning ROM Version 9, 4, 26, 100
Nero BurnRights Version 3, 4, 13, 100
Nero ControlCenter Version 4, 4, 18, 108
Nero DiscSpeed Version 5, 4, 13, 100
Nero DriveSpeed Version 4, 4, 12, 100
Nero Express Version 9, 4, 26, 100
Nero InfoTool Version 6, 4, 12, 100
Nero Photosnap Viewer Version 2, 4, 28, 100
Nero Recode Version 4.4.38.100
Nero RescueAgent Version 2, 4, 14, 100
Nero ShowTime Version 5.4.21.100
Nero SoundTrax Version 4, 4, 37, 100
Nero StartSmart Version 9.4.19.100
Nero Vision Version 6,4,17,100
Nero WaveEditor Version 5, 4, 37, 100
NeroCleanTool5.0.0.18.exe
NewTech Infosystems, Inc. - Backup Manager Module Version 2.0.0.19
NewTech Infosystems, Inc. - Gateway MyBackup Version 2.0.2.19
North Star com. - Photo Fram v5.00.003
np32dsw.dll
OGMCalc Application Version 0, 2, 0, 1
PC Tools - Registry Mechanic Version 9.00.0114
PC Tools - StartMan Application Version 2, 0, 0, 4
Prolific Technology Inc. - IoctlSvc Application Version 1, 6, 0, 0
Realtek HD Audio Manager Version 1, 0, 0, 513
Safer Networking Limited - Spybot - Search & Destroy Version 1, 6, 0, 0
Safer Networking Limited - SpyBot-S&D Version 1, 6, 2, 0
Safer Networking Ltd. - Spybot - Search & Destroy Version 1, 6, 0, 0
Safer-Networking Ltd. - Spybot - Search & Destroy Version 1, 6, 2, 0
Samsung Electronics - MonSetup32 Version 2, 0, 0, 1
Secunia PSI Version 1.5.0.1
SEIKO EPSON CORPORATION - EPSON Scan Version 3.4
SEIKO EPSON CORPORATION - Enhanced EPSON Bi-directional API Version 2.0.0.0
SEIKO EPSON CORPORATION - EProjManager Application Version 2, 3, 0, 1
SEIKO EPSON CORPORATION - EPSON Driver Update Version 3, 0, 2, 1
SEIKO EPSON CORPORATION - Epson Print CD Version 2.00.00
SEIKO EPSON CORPORATION - Epson Printer Driver Setup Version 7.00
SEIKO EPSON CORPORATION - EPSON Status Monitor 3 Version 2.01
SEIKO EPSON CORPORATION - EPSON Status Monitor 3 Version 5.04
SEIKO EPSON CORPORATION - EpsonNet Config Ver3.1a Version 3.1a
SpywareBlaster Version 4.03
StatsReader Version 2, 1, 0, 0
Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Java Platform SE 6 U20 Version 6.0.200.2
SwDir.dll
Tolunay Orkun - Dr. TCP Version 0.21
Tonec Inc. - Internet Download Manager (IDM) Version 5, 19, 2, 1
Tracker Software Products Ltd. - PDF-XChange Live Update Version 2.0
Tracker Software Products Ltd. - PDF-XChange Viewer Version 2.0
TuneUp Utilities Version 9.0.4100.14
USBS3S4Detection Version 1, 0, 0, 1
vidccleaner Application Version 1, 0, 0, 1
WinZip Version 14.0 (9029)
XviD AviC FOURCC Changer
XviD MiniCalc
WinRAR Version 3.90.0.0
Like everyone else that has enquired about this "mystery" for close to a year, the user name (I have noticed that most start with
02) is not one that I selected or was given for any "virtual app" or website.
Does this additional data help anyone get any closer to the solution? I am very uncomfortable with this entry and the only reason
why I haven't tried to delete it is that there are many others out there with the exact same entry. This leads me to believe that it serves a legitimate purpose, but what that purpose happens to be, is the $1,000,000 question!
I really appreciate all the help that any of you "computer gurus" can possibly give me, even if your response is just speculation.
Together, all of the speculation, may just add up to the answer.
Thanks All!
May 14th, 2010 6:52pm
hello there in regards to your quary here is what i believe you got the user name and address on your computer and showing up in "credential manager", i had the same experience today a few months i was setting up MS Win7 on my pc but i could not get my pc
linkup wireless with the modem\router for the internet in another room in my home so called AT&T tech support to help out. they statred outthe typical way acording to the BOOK well no luck so the next step was to have me to agree to let them
access and controll my pc, so in order for tech support to do this they have to use a program to do this, they have to use a user name: and a password: to access. so the username and password.
here is the user name and it's password that i found on my pc in Credentials manager;
user name: 02AYDTGHQQAO
Internet or network address: VIRTUALAPP/DIDLOGICAL ,,,,,,,;
((((((( note: see the letters "didlogical' above as part of internet or network address, well thats how i figured out what happened and how this address got on my pc, it was tech supports activities when they was helping me. I
would certainlly delete this input you never know how ethical this tech person is, if they wanted to come back to your computer they can do it they left an open door for them to do so, yes? if i ever need tech support again i make sure and request
them to remove all tracks of them coming in to my network, yes??????))))))))
I hope this helps you and others i did not read any of the responses you recieved regarding this issue if you got help., great, now you habve someone else who figured the issue out maybe in a little differant way, yeah :)
my email is: starlinku2@bellsouth.net
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May 18th, 2010 3:24am
jdevesa, it is a keylogger...credit card smuggler...identity thief! Dump it ASAP, and check back in your Credentials' often for it. Also dump Norton and/or Windows Security Essentials if you are running either, and switch to a more realible Anti-Virus
program.
I used to be a Microsoft girl from way back, and between Win 7 and the "new and improved IE 8", I now use Mozilla Firefox and Kaspersky Anti-Virus and have had no further problems (Knock On Wood!). A Kaspersky scan is running right now, and
has discovered 14 formerly undetected and unwanted Riskware programs I didn't realize were on my machine.
I have a couple of million files, so the scan is still running at 9:15 PM on the 25th, but am not happy to report that I am up to 18 unwanted programs now.
June 23rd, 2010 11:23pm
J. Devesa...you have produced my worst nightmare...re-occuring identity theft credentials. Now I know why I recheck the program every day. Thanks for proving me less paranoid than I thought!
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June 23rd, 2010 11:27pm
Nope Bob, never did use the wizard. Most of mine where manual off of CD's, so must have been net downloaded based. I got a new machine in mid-March of this year, and by mid-May it was back to Best Buys Geek Squad...who ended up having to reformat.
So I had to load the charming beauty all over again. -Genie Wagner
June 23rd, 2010 11:32pm
starlink, it's the open internet door, probably not the tech support group themselves.
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June 23rd, 2010 11:44pm
jdevesa, it is a keylogger...credit card smuggler...identity thief! Dump it ASAP, and check back in your Credentials' often for it. Also dump Norton and/or Windows Security Essentials if you are running either, and switch to a more realible Anti-Virus
program.
I used to be a Microsoft girl from way back, and between Win 7 and the "new and improved IE 8", I now use Mozilla Firefox and Kaspersky Anti-Virus and have had no further problems (Knock On Wood!). A Kaspersky scan is running right now, and has discovered
14 formerly undetected Riskware programs I didn't realize were on my machine.
Hello there,
would you mind to point us to a single reliable source where it's stated this is a keylogger or any other type of harmful software? I've been using myself Avira for years, along with other antispyware tools for months, and never got any warning.
Regards
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June 24th, 2010 3:29pm
Also, you can type "CRED" in your 'search programs and files box' on your start menu, and Credential Manager is an immediate option for a direct linkup. A lot faster when in your current state of paranoia like I am, you are checking it several
times each day for intruders! Nobody is gonna get my Birthday Gift Card Info!!!!!!!!!!
-Retired and Disabled, living on Social Security...thank goodness I pay my bills with paper. Not very good for the environment, but a heck of a lot safer than handing over the keys to the kingdom of your Credit and/or Debit Card! Sounds like
a hassle, but I do purchase Gift Cards in the amount I roughly plan to spend on the net...cuts way down your potential for loss.
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June 25th, 2010 5:16pm
Bingo to Silverlight and NVIDIA Drivers. Wow, you two are good, I forgot completely about the driver update. Sounds more likely to me than my suspected culprits of Ebay and/or Amazon. The driver download was just about in the right time
slot also.
June 25th, 2010 5:31pm
There is nothing legitimate about a hacker!!! I watched the SOB try to open up my system info one night when I could not sleep and was up and reading on the puter at 4 AM; three times in a row I closed the program only to watch it open again.
That is when I checked my credentials for trouble. That took about a minute to find! Personally, I feel as violated as having an actual home invader. This was Genie's New Toy once. I only got it in mid-March as an early Birthday Gift
from my son. See some of my other posts here, and on other like forums about this same topic. I am not a happy, carefree camper anymore.
You can contact me much faster on facebook if you have a page there... Genie Wagner.
(Now after all this, my daughter gives me weekly lectures on identity theft on facebook! And I will be darned if I am going to stop my posts THERE on animal cruelty, child charities, etc.)
(And Google's search engine has started quoting me in various listings. So much for flying under the radar anymore!)
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June 25th, 2010 5:43pm
@ Wayout..
Are you 100% certain about it being a keylogger ? If so can you please provide links for further confirmation as everything I see is confusing it is / it isnt and not one shred of information is credible so far.
Best I can get are a majority of answers saying its part of MSN.
Do unto others before they get chance to screw you !
August 4th, 2010 3:17pm
its not a keylogger,why be so paranoid,and get everyone eles worried,its microsoft live search bar,that stores your cred,under that virtualapp didlogical,i just deleted the live search tool bar,and had no further probs with it comin back,
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August 18th, 2010 4:09pm
Dadog: Please read this article, it will answer your "paranoid" remark: http://www.techrena.net/windows/remove-virtualapp-didlogical-credentials-windows-7/
Any time I get a user on my machine that is not me, darn it, I do become a bit concerned. Especially when they also have their own password, of which I have not been made aware of.
More information on this topic can be found on a site entitled: Microsoft Answers
August 18th, 2010 5:27pm
Ballscrew, please see my reply to dadog, where I have provided a link.
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August 18th, 2010 5:37pm
i did read,lol ,you said keylogger not me ,im not paranoid,it was a live app ,like i said ,i figured it out 1st day after hotmail would not open from meesenger,
August 18th, 2010 5:38pm
wayouttamyleague
Is this address of techrena correct? It is not hyperlinked and returns no search results in Bing.
Thanks,
femtobeam"In the future we will all die from hearsay."
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August 25th, 2010 8:36am
I have read over all the posting and it is not a
keylogger.
I read jjBme reply and it just needed to be tested to confirm it, so I did.
I did some testing on a machine that did not have this credential and without ever using Windows Live Essentials on it (however a later version came with the machine installed). I updated and loaded the new Windows Live Essentials 2011 pack.
After loading was complete the virtualapp/didlogical did not show up. However, after I launched Windows Live Messager and the program started configuring and I logged into my account, it showed
up immediatly before my eye as I watch the credental manager.
It is part of the Windows Live Essentals and very likely from Windows Live messager.
Great job in finding the answer jjBme.
Confirmed,
KASWahoo
October 23rd, 2010 4:58pm
Hi, I concur, I installed Windows Live Essentials to use Windows Live Mail. I just upgraded to win7 and found out there was no email program, you have to use WLE. I haven’t
used Windows Live Messenger yet so maybe it’s the logon to use any of the WLE products. Thanks for your time taken to figure it out. I am still poking around win7 and found this credential. I did a search and found this thread. Thanks again.
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October 26th, 2010 6:42pm
Funny how these things pop up again. So now I'm actually an employee myself and another went asking around, after someone brought this thread up on channel9.
So, officially, it is indeed created by Windows Live, as part of their authentication process. It is not a key-logger or a virus or your banking credentials.
November 8th, 2010 7:55pm
Funny how these things pop up again. So now I'm actually an employee myself and another went asking around, after someone brought this thread up on channel9.
:)
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November 17th, 2010 10:22am
Despite the following entry "virtualapp" is a legit matter; my windows live ids were also listed in the "generic credential" without me entering the data itself (hotmail email account / password + other email accounts...). This is still a security concern
when it comes to MS credential manager settings (such entries can be indeed an open door, for identity theft - n' can be used by spywares....!
I have edited some of the registry keys * hoping to restrict such entries in the future without my conscent...
November 17th, 2010 11:18am
Despite the following entry "virtualapp" is a legit matter; my windows live ids were also listed in the "generic credential" without me entering the data itself (hotmail email account / password + other email accounts...). This is still a security concern
when it comes to MS credential manager settings (such entries can be indeed an open door, for identity theft - n' can be used by spywares....!
I have edited some of the registry keys * hoping to restrict such entries in the future without my conscent...
"YOU HAVE EDITED SOME OF THE REGISTRY KEYS"
Could you kindly be more specific as to the edits performed in the registry, how you made them, the location of the registry (I know but others might not), and what the each edit accomplished? By doing so other users might have the same capabilities
on their machines should they so desire?
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November 30th, 2010 1:14am
good catch zy, bad influences are easy mistakes.
January 19th, 2011 1:58am
I'm not so sure, and even if it is, there should be no one else able to access my computer without my knowledge. Even Windows Live.
What I realized at some point was that a password reset disc had been created for my computer. I didn't remember doing that, in fact I remember I resisted doing that. At some point, the message that told me I needed to creat a password reset disc
went away (under HP Advisor). I was suddenly having problems at times with my mouse not working at times. At other times, I was having slow response to the mouse. Then, I stumbled the other day on this 'credentials' thing.
My 'cure' was to go in, create a new password reset disc using the alternative way of putting the password on a flash drive, and then wait and see what happened. Interestingly, as soon as I created the new passord reset on the flash drive, the
message came back saying all other password reset disks are now inoperative and only my new password reset flash drive (usb) would work.
All I care is that there have been no more un-allowed credentials showing up on my computer. Enough said.
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February 2nd, 2011 6:50pm
Would you be able to provide any wisdom as to why it seems so cryptic? is it a last-minute kludge to be cleaned up later? It would seem the logical choice for a windows live credential to have "WindowsLive:(token):name=........" instead of "02skjgd&*%%$@!!!!!"
as the username - the same as the other entries in the list... ??
March 11th, 2011 11:40am
Agreed. This just looks suspicious. Even if this is a legitimate, the name could not be worse.
And still.... Windows has not provided a solid/final answer.
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March 16th, 2011 7:59pm
I used to run MS Essentials, then I noticed system was unstable and slow. I started looking under the hood. I found lots of keygen.dll.. Then in the user security priviliges a odd looking user was listed and all of the privileges were changed.
Malware Bytes was next, a Trojan was found. I do all kinds of P2P lending,Plus access several online bank accounts every day not to mention normal charge card payments, etc. I got nervous when I saw that same virtual credential tonight. It must be time
to wipe the drives out and reinstall!
March 21st, 2011 12:29am
i also have w7 rtm x32 with office 2010; also have virtualapp/didlogical issue and i'm running windows live. just for additional input. i notice this issue was first posted before w7 was officially released--jdevesa--were you running
w7 prior to that time?
any more input--anyone? thanks--this has been a very helpful dialogue.
Hello,
I was using 32bit on my CQ61212TU laptop then got a RTM copy with both 32bit & 64 bit.I installed the x64 bit version for good reasons then when I downloaded the MS Office trial it wasnt there,I
noticed it first appearing when I downloaded IE9 PREVIEW then same day Virtual application to run my 32bit copy out there in Virtual Visual Arts & cloud somewhere this crediential showed up.I deleted it 6 times and it returns every day no system changes
what so ever I now leave it there BTW I also list same exact applications except for Nvidia drivers So its a Virtual credential required to login when in use without us having to signin also I have read that windows live essentials has a credential similar
to this? if I am wrong Please give me some more input maybe I am right
regards
jeffreyobrien
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April 19th, 2011 12:22am
Funny how these things pop up again. So now I'm actually an employee myself and another went asking around, after someone brought this thread up on channel9.
So, officially, it is indeed created by Windows Live, as part of their authentication process. It is not a key-logger or a virus or your banking credentials.
http://www.techrena.net/windows/remove-virtualapp-didlogical-credentials-windows-7/
your 100% correct Microsoft employee is best advise ever,yes I also did your exact install loged into windows live essentials then when I openned messenger it appeared as if it were magic,but thanks to all of you for all your input myself included now I
will put this to bed as ANSWERED
thanks everyone
jeffreyobrien
April 19th, 2011 12:37am
hi all I am ccna from cisco and technician hardware.
my netbook is with the same application. I deleted it from de vault but it return, I am not a engenier and contact microsoft and asus. they dont answer by phone. as
the up question, and due to recovery on win 7 it could be a hacker atack.
I dont now what to do.!!!
I dont want to format my net book although I have a friend who can lend me the dvd hard drive.
my win7 is starter and 32 bit (i guess it is 32 bit, x86)
thanks in advance
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June 25th, 2011 1:46pm
Hello,
I've read this post from start (08/2009) to finish (06/24/2011), as I have the same question. I am currently corresponding with a Microsoft security agent, and it is yet to be
determined, the final result. My question, is "Why did 'Reckon-J.Devesa' and 'Nicholas Li, Moderator', drop out of the discussion?". As this is an important issue. And to me
seems unresolved.
RolloMayRolloMay
July 13th, 2011 7:46pm