Windows Backup over Network
I have a WD Passport drive connected to my desktop running W7. I have laptop connected wirelessly running Vista Basic. I would like to share the passport drive for backing up the laptop, but when I use the backup wizard in Vista. It will only let me select the dvd drive as a backup destination. I have successfully set up a network share on the passport drive so I could easy copy files over manually, but I would like to use Window backup facilityfor obvious reasonsThanks fo any help
April 3rd, 2009 10:37pm
Hi,
You need to enable Network Discovery, File and Printer Sharing. Open Control Panel\Network and sharing center, click on Change advanced sharing settings and check related settings in the right pane. Also I suggest that you temporary disable the anti-virus and firewall in Windows 7 beta.
If the issue still occurs, please share a local hard drive in Windows 7, and let us know if backup from Windows Vista could find this drive.Arthur Xie - MSFT
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April 7th, 2009 11:49am
Thanks - I've taken sugested actions and seemed to be sharing okay for a while there. This morning however when I tried to copy a file from the laptop (Vista) to tthe dektop, I get the message "You need permission for this action" or something like that and it wont let me do the copy. I can open and brows files over the network okay, Thanks for help Jim
April 8th, 2009 5:12pm
Hi Jim,
Do you create the same username\password on the two computers, or you have enabled Guest account?
You need to check the sharing settings. Right-click on the drive and choose Properties. Click the Sharing tab, click on the button Advanced Sharing, then click the button Permissions. Make sure that the account you are using to access the shared folder has full control rights.Arthur Xie - MSFT
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April 9th, 2009 6:23am
Hi Arthur - I have the same username on both computers, but I am not using passwords. I have already done the other steps you recommend, but still no luck. When I to to use Windows backup from my laptop (Vista), it will not even let me browse for a network drive. The button is greyed out.
April 10th, 2009 3:57am
Hi,
Can you try mapping a drive to the Win7 machine, from the desktop/Vista Basic?
1. On the Desktop, open Computer
2. Select Map Network Drive
3. Under Folder, type in your Win7 hostname and the folder. Eg:
\\windows7\Folder
4. Click Finished.
5. In Computer window, double click and make sure that you can access the above mapped drive.
6. Go back to Windows Backup from your desktop and see if you can backup the mapped drive.
Hope this helps!Jabez Gan [MVP] - http://www.msblog.org
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April 10th, 2009 6:26am
Thanks Jabez - I did the mapping and it shows up okay in "My Computer", but still no luck when I try the "backup my computer" wizard. A real puzzler
April 10th, 2009 10:57pm
Hi,
I suggest that you check related policy setting in Windows 7 beta.
1. Click Start. In the Start Search box type gpedit.msc and press Enter. 2. Navigate to Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local Settings\Security Options. Find the following entries in the right pane.
Network access: Do not allow anonymous enumeration of SAM accountsNetwork access: Do not allow anonymous enumeration of SAM accounts and shares
3. Make sure that the above policies are Enabled.
If it does not help, open Control Panel\Network and Sharing Center\Change advanced sharing settings, make sure that Password protected sharing is enabled. Also temporary disable the anti-virus and firewall on both computers.Arthur Xie - MSFT
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April 13th, 2009 7:38am
Thanks Arthur - I took all the above steps and still no luck. If I enable password protected sharing, I cannot share because I am prompted for a password, when I attempt to access a network drive and I have not set up any passwords.I can now share fully all desired drives, so my only problem is that the backup wizard does not make the desired target available. This is a fairly serious problem I believe , since a lot of people are buying these low cost high-capacity drives withe express purpose of using them for backing up their systems. I run a scheduled backup on the W7 computer and is works great.RegardsJim
April 13th, 2009 4:41pm
I suspect that the Policies tab of the drive Properties is set to not allow write caching. This external drive would set for quick detach by default. The backup is probably looking for a permanant drive on the desktop machine.Rating posts helps other users
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April 14th, 2009 7:27pm
Thanks very much Mark. Sure enough that was the case - Today however, I am having problems sharing anything on the W7 computer. When I click on the icon in the network and sharing centre I get "Windows cannot access\\Desktop". Looking details I get error code 0x8007005 and "Access is denied" I can share files on the laptop(Vist) fine from the desktop(W7), and yesterday sharing both ways was working fine. I can't for the lif of me see that I have changed any settings from yesterday. Strangely, I am explicity sharing one folder on the WD drive and I can access that folder okay, but I don't seem to be able to share the entire drive today. RegardsJim
April 15th, 2009 2:28am
OK, I think you may be seeing some collision between the new 7 Homegroup setting, and the legacy Vista Homegroup. I suggest taking a look at your Vista machine. The Advanced Network settings over there are going to offer something a bit different from the Win 7 config. You are, I hope, now set to use a "Work network" on the 7 system, and over on the Vista, I want you to go into the "Advanced Settings, and make sure you are in the Vista "Workgroup" that the 7 system has as a "Work Network. Set both systems to share, and discover.I would create an identical user/pass on both systems to try the sharing with, if it still fails to share.Rating posts helps other users
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April 15th, 2009 4:24pm
Thanks again Mark - I did have the network on W7 set to "Home" and I changed it to "Work". The Vista computer is set to "Private Network which is the correct setting, I believe, for both home and work computers. Both computers already had all the other recommended settings. I created identical user/passwords on both systems and I can now log in from the Vista (Laptop) and access all the files on the the desktop computer. When I initially tried to log in to the Laptop from the W7(desktop), I got userid/password failures, so I removed the password from the laptop and disabled password protected sharing and that solved the problem. So I am now happily sharing as I would wish. I also noticed digging around that having your computer connected to a UPS may cause the backup wizard not to work with the external drives, so that may be the problem I am having. I have my computer plugged into an APC box. Personally I am not too concerned as I can easily back up my laptop over the network manually. I do think that MS would be wise to fix this however. Maybe the Homegroups will eventually provide the solution, but in the interim, file sharing on a LAN seems to have always been a source of problems andthe requirement for thisis becoming more and more ubiquitous.Regards & Thanks again for your helpJim
April 15th, 2009 10:23pm
Hi
I think I have similar problem, can anyone help?
see link below:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7network/thread/833dfc8a-898a-4354-890b-3ebe41b1ca85
Thanks in advance
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November 20th, 2009 11:30am