Windows 7 Hidden Partition affecting hibernate and backup?
I have a workaround for a problem I was having but still don't understand the cause. All of a sudden my Windows 7 x64 Ultimate install would not hibernate and the backup would fail. I was able to resolve both issues by assigning a drive letter to the 200MB partition, but why is this required all of a sudden? I'd like to make it hidden again but when I do the issues come back. Problem Details: When hibernating the system just returns to the logon screen. When you look under Advanced System Settings/Advanced/Startup and Recovery the default OS pull down is blank. Also BCDEdit gives you a file not found message. Here is the backup error:"The system cannot find the file specified", with the error code of 0x80070002
April 25th, 2010 9:09am

Maybe the partition table is corrupt by some reasons. It can be caused by some incompatible programs which have high privileges. You may need to re-create that partition, then make it as Active. Then when startup, launch Startup Repair. I suggest you backup your system before doing the above steps.Arthur Xie - MSFT
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April 27th, 2010 3:58am

I am unable to delete the partition using Disk Management. How else can I clear the partition? diskpart? Also worth noting is that I attempted to rezise D: by taking space from C:. The C:drive was made smaller but it did not allow me to expand D: so I returned the space to C:. Perhaps it is this windows operation that caused the corruption but I can't be sure. Anyway to confirm your that my partition table is indeed corrupt before deleting and recreating it?
May 1st, 2010 7:39pm

Recreated the partition with diskpart, allowed startup recovery to recreate it but I have the same problem. Note: It is also working if I mount the 200MB parition as an NTFS folder e.g c:\boot.
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May 1st, 2010 8:01pm

I have a workaround for a problem I was having but still don't understand the cause. All of a sudden my Windows 7 x64 Ultimate install would not hibernate and the backup would fail. I was able to resolve both issues by assigning a drive letter to the 200MB partition, but why is this required all of a sudden? I'd like to make it hidden again but when I do the issues come back. Problem Details: When hibernating the system just returns to the logon screen. When you look under Advanced System Settings/Advanced/Startup and Recovery the default OS pull down is blank. Also BCDEdit gives you a file not found message. Here is the backup error:"The system cannot find the file specified", with the error code of 0x80070002 Do not mess with the small hidden partition on the hard disk. That partition is small at 100 megabytes and its intended for the OS cold boot loader. You can ignore it, its not affecting the C: drive and you can backup files as you wish to any target you have. if you have tape though then you need 3rd party software as Microsoft no longer provides it with Windows backup. Vote if answered or helpful, I am running for Office (joke)! IT/Developer, Windows/Linux/Mainframe Need a some parts finish the new server, see the site for remaining items needed
May 1st, 2010 10:47pm

I have a workaround for a problem I was having but still don't understand the cause. All of a sudden my Windows 7 x64 Ultimate install would not hibernate and the backup would fail. I was able to resolve both issues by assigning a drive letter to the 200MB partition, but why is this required all of a sudden? I'd like to make it hidden again but when I do the issues come back. Problem Details: When hibernating the system just returns to the logon screen. When you look under Advanced System Settings/Advanced/Startup and Recovery the default OS pull down is blank. Also BCDEdit gives you a file not found message. Here is the backup error:"The system cannot find the file specified", with the error code of 0x80070002 Do not mess with the small hidden partition on the hard disk. That partition is small at 100 megabytes and its intended for the OS cold boot loader. You can ignore it, its not affecting the C: drive and you can backup files as you wish to any target you have. if you have tape though then you need 3rd party software as Microsoft no longer provides it with Windows backup. Vote if answered or helpful, I am running for Office (joke)! IT/Developer, Windows/Linux/Mainframe Need a some parts finish the new server, see the site for remaining items needed I am using windows backup and I have a workaround, just wondering how and why this happened and how to restore the parition to hidden. My problems go away when I assign a drive letter to this.
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May 2nd, 2010 7:06pm

Your backup software is clearly unsuitable for Windows 7 as it is tampering with a protected partition it has no place to be. Vote if answered or helpful, I am running for Office (joke)! IT/Developer, Windows/Linux/Mainframe Need a some parts finish the new server, see the site for remaining items needed
May 2nd, 2010 7:08pm

My backup software is the built in windows backup, it should not be an issue. Thanks for your input but I think you are misunderstanding the issue.
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May 3rd, 2010 9:16am

Wow, I just started having this same issue with my Windows 7 Ultimate. Just noticed that on 6/7/2010 my Windows Home Server backups began failing. I then noticed strange things like my computer would no longer sleep or hibernate and explorer was constantly crashing. Then control panel would no longer load. I pulled up my backup logs and on the 7th, the backups began failing on the 100MB hidden partition with the error "The volume's file system is not supported.". This is after successful nightly backups since 2/8/2010! I looked to see if any software or any programs were installed that could cause this issue and found none. The hard disk tests as perfect, and suffers no smart errors or failing sectors. So I find this thread and try adding a drive letter to the hidden partition and instantly all my problems go away! WTF?
June 17th, 2010 7:31pm

I do not use the Windows backup as I prefer to to use disk cloning instead. This way if the rig dies, I am back up fast. See my site and the page on how I copied the Windows disk. Vote if answered or helpful, I am running for Office (joke)! IT/Developer, Windows/Linux/Mainframe Need a some parts finish the new server, see the site for remaining items needed
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June 17th, 2010 9:43pm

Any resolution to this issue? I'm having the exact same problem.
August 6th, 2010 9:10am

Hello, Open an elevated cmd prompt and run powercfg /energy This will generate a report, post the results back to the forum among other things, it will attempt to show reasons why a machine is not going to sleep or hibernating.Thanks, Darrell Gorter This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Volume Activation documentation on TechNet http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd197314.aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd996588.aspx VAMT - Volume Activation Management Tool - Download link http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=ec7156d2-2864-49ee-bfcb-777b898ad582&displaylang=en
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August 6th, 2010 12:19pm

Hi Darrell, Thanks. My problem is that I have to assign a drive letter to my hidden partition for hibernation to work. Otherwise, it just returns me to the login screen. I can assign a drive letter, remove it, and hibernation still works. On restart however, it's broken again. I also have what I think might be another symptom of the same problem: hitting F8 on startup doesn't get me the boot menu. Rather, it just tells me a key is stuck. Power Efficiency Diagnostics Report Computer Name xxxxx Scan Time 2010-08-07T17:42:49Z Scan Duration 60 seconds System Manufacturer LENOVO System Product Name 2764CTO BIOS Date 05/27/2010 BIOS Version 7UET88WW (3.18 ) OS Build 7600 Platform Role PlatformRoleMobile Plugged In true Process Count 96 Thread Count 1144 Report GUID {09984b72-cd39-44db-b4b8-66a29792055e} Analysis Results Errors Power Policy:Sleep timeout is disabled (Plugged In) The computer is not configured to automatically sleep after a period of inactivity. Power Policy:Minimum processor performance state is 100% (Plugged In) The processor is not configured to automatically reduce power consumption based on activity. Power Policy:USB Selective Suspend is disabled (Plugged In) The current power policy has globally disabled USB selective suspend. Power Policy:PCI Express ASPM is disabled (Plugged In) The current power policy for PCI Express Active State Power Management (ASPM) is configured to Off. USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use. Device Name USB Root Hub Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2937 Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 0 Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_2937 Port Path USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use. Device Name USB Root Hub Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2938 Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 1 Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_2938 Port Path USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use. Device Name USB Root Hub Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2939 Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 2 Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_2939 Port Path USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use. Device Name USB Root Hub Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293C Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 7 Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_293C Port Path USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use. Device Name USB Root Hub Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2934 Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 0 Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_2934 Port Path USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use. Device Name USB Root Hub Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2935 Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 1 Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_2935 Port Path USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use. Device Name USB Root Hub Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2936 Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 2 Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_2936 Port Path USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use. Device Name USB Root Hub Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293A Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 7 Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_293A Port Path USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use. Device Name ThinkPad Bluetooth 2.1 with Enhanced Data Rate Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2938 Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 1 Device ID USB\VID_0A5C&PID_2145 Port Path 2 CPU Utilization:Processor utilization is high The average processor utilization during the trace was high. The system will consume less power when the average processor utilization is very low. Review processor utilization for individual processes to determine which applications and services contribute the most to total processor utilization. Average Utilization (%) 22.18 Platform Power Management Capabilities:PCI Express Active-State Power Management (ASPM) Disabled PCI Express Active-State Power Management (ASPM) has been disabled due to a known incompatibility with the hardware in this computer. Warnings Power Policy:Display timeout is long (Plugged In) The display is configured to turn off after longer than 10 minutes. Timeout (seconds) 1800 Power Policy:Dim timeout is long (Plugged In) The display is configured to automatically dim after longer than 10 minutes. Timeout (seconds) 1200 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name MsMpEng.exe PID 456 Average Utilization (%) 6.10 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \Device\HarddiskVolume2\ProgramData\Microsoft\Microsoft Antimalware\Definition Updates\{B21ECB6F-3DFA-4A9C-A22F-028FE2D192DC}\mpengine.dll 5.11 0.39 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll 0.24 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name SmartAudio.exe PID 2532 Average Utilization (%) 2.43 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe 0.78 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\mscorwks.dll 0.52 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft.vc80.crt_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.4927_none_d08a205e442db5b5\msvcr80.dll 0.16 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name svchost.exe PID 1076 Average Utilization (%) 1.62 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe 0.91 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\sysmain.dll 0.58 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\msvcrt.dll 0.03 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name Uedit32.exe PID 3744 Average Utilization (%) 1.42 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe 0.33 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Program Files (x86)\IDM Computer Solutions\UltraEdit\Uedit32.exe 0.32 \SystemRoot\System32\win32k.sys 0.28 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name explorer.exe PID 1824 Average Utilization (%) 1.28 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe 0.43 \SystemRoot\System32\win32k.sys 0.28 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\ntdll.dll 0.09 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name System PID 4 Average Utilization (%) 1.18 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe 0.50 \SystemRoot\system32\hal.dll 0.45 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\PCGenFAM.sys 0.04 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name svchost.exe PID 1460 Average Utilization (%) 0.81 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\diagperf.dll 0.34 \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe 0.16 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\msvcrt.dll 0.13 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name SearchIndexer.exe PID 4244 Average Utilization (%) 0.76 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\tquery.dll 0.58 \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe 0.06 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\esent.dll 0.02 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name SolutoService.exe PID 1756 Average Utilization (%) 0.68 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v2.0.50727\mscorwks.dll 0.36 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v2.0.50727\mscorjit.dll 0.09 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_64\mscorlib\9a017aa8d51322f18a40f414fa35872d\mscorlib.ni.dll 0.04 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name CCC.exe PID 3732 Average Utilization (%) 0.56 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe 0.21 \SystemRoot\system32\hal.dll 0.14 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v2.0.50727\mscorwks.dll 0.07 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name dwm.exe PID 1760 Average Utilization (%) 0.38 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\dwmcore.dll 0.12 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\atidxx64.dll 0.06 \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe 0.05 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name Soluto.exe PID 1524 Average Utilization (%) 0.29 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v2.0.50727\mscorwks.dll 0.14 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\assembly\NativeImages_v2.0.50727_64\mscorlib\9a017aa8d51322f18a40f414fa35872d\mscorlib.ni.dll 0.05 0.02 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name AcSvc.exe PID 4348 Average Utilization (%) 0.29 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe 0.11 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\SysWOW64\KernelBase.dll 0.06 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\wow64cpu.dll 0.03 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name csrss.exe PID 588 Average Utilization (%) 0.25 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\atipmdag.sys 0.12 \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe 0.05 \SystemRoot\System32\win32k.sys 0.04 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name SynTPEnh.exe PID 2460 Average Utilization (%) 0.25 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe 0.23 \SystemRoot\system32\hal.dll 0.01 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\SynTP.sys 0.00 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name VistaStartMenu.exe PID 2764 Average Utilization (%) 0.25 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe 0.18 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Program Files (x86)\Vista Start Menu\VistaStartMenu.exe 0.03 \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\SysWOW64\KernelBase.dll 0.00 CPU Utilization:Individual process with significant processor utilization. This process is responsible for a significant portion of the total processor utilization recorded during the trace. Process Name LogonUI.exe PID 2144 Average Utilization (%) 0.21 Module Average Module Utilization (%) \Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft.windows.gdiplus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.1.7600.16385_none_2b4f45e87195fcc4\GdiPlus.dll 0.06 \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe 0.05 \SystemRoot\System32\win32k.sys 0.03 Information Platform Timer Resolution:Platform Timer Resolution The default platform timer resolution is 15.6ms (15625000ns) and should be used whenever the system is idle. If the timer resolution is increased, processor power management technologies may not be effective. The timer resolution may be increased due to multimedia playback or graphical animations. Current Timer Resolution (100ns units) 156000 Power Policy:Active Power Plan The current power plan in use Plan Name Custom Plan GUID {f70f11ac-d8bb-4989-96a9-3dd2755f482b} Power Policy:Power Plan Personality (On Battery) The personality of the current power plan when the system is on battery power. Personality Balanced Power Policy:Video Quality (On Battery) Enables Windows Media Player to optimize for quality or power savings when playing video. Quality Mode Optimize for Power Savings Power Policy:Power Plan Personality (Plugged In) The personality of the current power plan when the system is plugged in. Personality Balanced Power Policy:Video quality (Plugged In) Enables Windows Media Player to optimize for quality or power savings when playing video. Quality Mode Optimize for Video Quality System Availability Requests:Analysis Success Analysis was successful. No energy efficiency problems were found. No information was returned. Battery:Battery Information Battery ID 121SANYO42T4654 Manufacturer SANYO Serial Number 121 Chemistry LION Long Term 1 Design Capacity 37440 Last Full Charge 37620 Platform Power Management Capabilities:Supported Sleep States Sleep states allow the computer to enter low-power modes after a period of inactivity. The S3 sleep state is the default sleep state for Windows platforms. The S3 sleep state consumes only enough power to preserve memory contents and allow the computer to resume working quickly. Very few platforms support the S1 or S2 Sleep states. S1 Sleep Supported false S2 Sleep Supported false S3 Sleep Supported true S4 Sleep Supported true Platform Power Management Capabilities:Adaptive Display Brightness is supported. This computer enables Windows to automatically control the brightness of the integrated display. Platform Power Management Capabilities:Processor Power Management Capabilities Effective processor power management enables the computer to automatically balance performance and energy consumption. Group 0 Index 0 Idle (C) State Count 3 Performance (P) State Count 5 Throttle (T) State Count 8 Platform Power Management Capabilities:Processor Power Management Capabilities Effective processor power management enables the computer to automatically balance performance and energy consumption. Group 0 Index 1 Idle (C) State Count 3 Performance (P) State Count 5 Throttle (T) State Count 8
August 7th, 2010 1:53pm

Hello Luckycharms, Let's open an elevated cmd prompt. run bcdedit /enum and bcdedit /enum resume post the output Plus run powercfg /a ( I thought this would be in the above report but not sure I see it)Thanks, Darrell Gorter This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Volume Activation documentation on TechNet http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd197314.aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd996588.aspx VAMT - Volume Activation Management Tool - Download link http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=ec7156d2-2864-49ee-bfcb-777b898ad582&displaylang=en
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August 7th, 2010 10:15pm

Here it is, but fyi, I have to assign a drive letter to the hidden partition in order for bcdedit to work. Otherwise, it just gives me the error that it can't find the bcd store data. If I assign a drive letter and then remove it, bcdedit still works, but upon reboot it stops working again. C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit /enum Windows Boot Manager -------------------- identifier {bootmgr} device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1 description Windows Boot Manager locale en-US inherit {globalsettings} default {current} resumeobject {08929b91-1388-11df-9889-c8f9f79992be} displayorder {current} toolsdisplayorder {memdiag} timeout 30 Windows Boot Loader ------------------- identifier {current} device partition=C: path \Windows\system32\winload.exe description Windows 7 locale en-US loadoptions DDISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS inherit {bootloadersettings} recoverysequence {08929b93-1388-11df-9889-c8f9f79992be} recoveryenabled Yes testsigning No osdevice partition=C: systemroot \Windows resumeobject {08929b91-1388-11df-9889-c8f9f79992be} nx OptIn C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit /enum resume Resume from Hibernate --------------------- identifier {08929b91-1388-11df-9889-c8f9f79992be} device partition=C: path \Windows\system32\winresume.exe description Windows Resume Application locale en-US filedevice partition=C: filepath \hiberfil.sys debugoptionenabled No C:\Windows\system32>powercfg /a The following sleep states are available on this system: Standby ( S3 ) Hibernate Hybrid Sleep The following sleep states are not available on this system: Standby (S1) The system firmware does not support this standby state. Standby (S2) The system firmware does not support this standby state.
August 9th, 2010 10:47am

Update: running the following command and setting my C: partition to Active allows my machine to hibernate: bcdboot c:\windows /s c: I then assigned the hidden partition to E:, ran bcdboot c:\windows /s e:, and rebooted. The same old problem as it always was. bcdedit isn't able to locate the bcd store (it *is* able to locate it when i put it on the c: drive). There is a report from someone else who was never really able to repair his bcd file: "I had a problem with hibernation restarting my computer, and finally figured out that there is a problem with your BCD (Boot Configuration Data Store) in the boot folder (ex: C:\boot\bcd). Most likely its a problem with the "Resume from Hibernate" section of the BCD which points your computer in the direction of the operating system to resume from and to. You can edit/view your BCD by opening up command prompt and using the command bcdedit /? for a list of options. Anyway I tried everything to fix the hibernation problem, including using EasyBcd, but the only thing that worked was installing another copy of windows on a different partition, this rewrites the BCD. Then you can uninstall that extra Operating System. Now the BCD should be corrected. Hope this helps, I couldn't find any info on this subject for months so I just played around with the BCD, and installing another OS" (from http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/27676-hibernate-windows-7-build-7600-64-bit-ultimate.html). I don't know that my problem is with the BCD store itself - perhaps it's some partition table issue, or some pointer somewhere? Any ideas?
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August 11th, 2010 6:16pm

update: booting into recovery console and running "bootrec /rebuildbcd" says that it finds 0 windows installations on the machine. Running "bootrec /scanos" also comes up with 0 installations found. Running bootrec /fixmbr and bootrec /fixboot don't help. anyone listening?
August 11th, 2010 7:50pm

Hello luckycharms, What does disk management show for this? right click, my computer manage Choose disk management Can you post the screenshot of what this looks likeThanks, Darrell Gorter This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Volume Activation documentation on TechNet http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd197314.aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd996588.aspx VAMT - Volume Activation Management Tool - Download link http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=ec7156d2-2864-49ee-bfcb-777b898ad582&displaylang=en
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August 12th, 2010 1:27pm

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August 12th, 2010 1:53pm

Hello Luckycharms, Nothing in there looks unusual or gives any indication as to why it's happening. Thanks, Darrell Gorter This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Volume Activation documentation on TechNet http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd197314.aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd996588.aspx VAMT - Volume Activation Management Tool - Download link http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=ec7156d2-2864-49ee-bfcb-777b898ad582&displaylang=en
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August 13th, 2010 6:11pm

From what I have seen there is a problem with the machine as I have tested the Windows backup and it never showed any issues with the hidden partition. I wonder what other software is on the machine, it suggests something has affected the backup and possibly the way the system recognizes the disk. Vote if answered or helpful, I am running for Office (joke)! IT/Developer, Windows/Linux/Mainframe I also am a true vegan and I am very good with economics and I used to play chess at 2400++ I have lots of papers on my site for power supplies and video card problems, see the resources section
August 13th, 2010 6:16pm

Darrell, Please don't give up on me! Is there any way to re-create the system reserved partition, perhaps? What could be corrupted that would keep bcdedit from seeing the bcdstore on that partition?
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August 14th, 2010 10:02am

@vegan - i'm not using backup, but rather i have issues with hibernation. the best evidence to diagnose underlying problem, i think, is that bcdedit cannot access the bcd store unless i assign a drive letter to the hidden partition. Another good clue is that, in the recovery console, running bootrec /scanos doesn't find any windows installations. All this info is in the thread above. Any ideas you have are very welcome!
August 14th, 2010 10:42am

Windows 7 boots so fast I do not recommend hibernate. Better to shut down and have a fresh image in memory each session. This way its also more secure. Vote if answered or helpful, I am running for Office (joke)! IT/Developer, Windows/Linux/Mainframe I also am a true vegan and I am very good with economics and I used to play chess at 2400++ I have lots of papers on my site for power supplies and video card problems, see the resources section
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August 14th, 2010 10:45am

@vegan - thanks for the tip, but no thanks. if you don't have helpful advice about the problem i'm trying to solve, i kindly request to please keep the thread clear so I can keep the attention of the techs. thanks.
August 14th, 2010 2:41pm

Check for an update BIOS as hibernate is dependent on it a lot.Vote if answered or helpful, I am running for Office (joke)! IT/Developer, Windows/Linux/Mainframe I also am a true vegan and I am very good with economics and I used to play chess at 2400++ I have lots of papers on my site for power supplies and video card problems, see the resources section
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August 14th, 2010 2:43pm

everything is fully updated.
August 15th, 2010 9:48am

Hello Luckycharms, Where is the hiberfile.sys located and what size is it? Is it on the C drive and is there one on the hidden partition?Thanks, Darrell Gorter This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Volume Activation documentation on TechNet http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd197314.aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd996588.aspx VAMT - Volume Activation Management Tool - Download link http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=ec7156d2-2864-49ee-bfcb-777b898ad582&displaylang=en
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August 16th, 2010 1:53pm

if the hiberfile is not in the root of the C: drive then there is a problem. Its hidden so you will need to show hidden files and then you can delete it so that the system creates a new copy. Vote if answered or helpful, I am running for Office (joke)! IT/Developer, Windows/Linux/Mainframe I also am a true vegan and I am very good with economics and I used to play chess at 2400++ I have lots of papers on my site for power supplies and video card problems, see the resources section
August 16th, 2010 3:01pm

hi darrell, thanks for not giving up on me. The hiberfil.sys is on c:\, and it's about 4.5 GB. I have 6 GB RAM. I've tried deleting and recreating the hiberfil (using powercfg -h on/off), and i've also tried upping the size of hiberfil.sys to 100% (6GB). Neither helps. I see no hiberfil.sys on the hidden partition. Would hiberfil.sys stuff affect bcdedit? I'd be suprised if it had anything to do with bootrec /scanos not finding any windows installations, etc.
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August 16th, 2010 4:40pm

The hiberfile should be the same size as physical RAM. So there is a problem with it. Vote if answered or helpful, I am running for Office (joke)! IT/Developer, Windows/Linux/Mainframe I also am a true vegan and I am very good with economics and I used to play chess at 2400++ I have lots of papers on my site for power supplies and video card problems, see the resources section
August 16th, 2010 5:14pm

@vegan, please research your answers before throwing them about. Google "POWERCFG -H -Size" to learn more. With all due respect, I'd really appreciate keeping the thread clean so the MS techs have an easier time keeping an eye on it.
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August 17th, 2010 6:30am

Hello Luckycharms, What is in the registry under Hkey_Local_Machine\mountedDevices? I am suspecting that the volume GUIDS changed and hoping that there is some indicator in this registry location.Thanks, Darrell Gorter This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Volume Activation documentation on TechNet http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd197314.aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd996588.aspx VAMT - Volume Activation Management Tool - Download link http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=ec7156d2-2864-49ee-bfcb-777b898ad582&displaylang=en
August 17th, 2010 12:46pm

Hi Darrell, Below is my HKLM\System\MountedDevices . I tried deleting and restarting in the past, and my computer was unable to restart. If I delete all values except for the C: drive, then I'm able to restart, but my problem persists. see my registry at http://grove.ufl.edu/~ashenkin/temp/mounteddevices_reg.JPG
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August 19th, 2010 12:24pm

Hello Luckycharms Have you tried to rebuild the bcd file? Method two from this article 927391 Error message when you start Windows Vista: "The Windows Boot Configuration Data file is missing required information" http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;927391 Thanks, Darrell Gorter This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Volume Activation documentation on TechNet http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd197314.aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd996588.aspx VAMT - Volume Activation Management Tool - Download link http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=ec7156d2-2864-49ee-bfcb-777b898ad582&displaylang=en
August 23rd, 2010 8:34pm

Hi Darrell, I'll try rebuilding the BCD file, but those are instructions for vista, which doesn't use the hidden partition as far as i know. Will that step 2 still work for Windows 7, which has its BCD file on the hidden partition? thanks, allie
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August 24th, 2010 6:26pm

Hello Luckycharms, while offline you can assign a drive letter to that volume using diskpart if it doesn't work Thanks, Darrell Gorter This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Volume Activation documentation on TechNet http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/dd197314.aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd996588.aspx VAMT - Volume Activation Management Tool - Download link http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=ec7156d2-2864-49ee-bfcb-777b898ad582&displaylang=en
August 26th, 2010 5:37pm

I have a workaround for a problem I was having but still don't understand the cause. All of a sudden my Windows 7 x64 Ultimate install would not hibernate and the backup would fail. I was able to resolve both issues by assigning a drive letter to the 200MB partition, but why is this required all of a sudden? I'd like to make it hidden again but when I do the issues come back. Problem Details: When hibernating the system just returns to the logon screen. When you look under Advanced System Settings/Advanced/Startup and Recovery the default OS pull down is blank. Also BCDEdit gives you a file not found message. Here is the backup error:"The system cannot find the file specified", with the error code of 0x80070002 I can confirm the 'hidden partition' is the root of all evil! http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itprogeneral/thread/fce6950d-c06d-4dd0-a850-67022db4fe04/ I was able to create a 'system image' backup no problems.. but if i restore to that image then try to make a backup from that .. it would always fail with: "not enough space" or something.. But i have a 1TB external HD! The only workaround is to extend the 'hidden partition' but it's quite complicated using command line with DiskPart. I have since done a clean install and bypassed the 'hidden partition'. For people who may want to avoid this problematic 'hidden partition': - when you get to the screen where you specify where to install Windows - partition as normal.. Windows will force you to install a 'hidden partition'.. let it. - once everything is complete and you're ready to install.. DELETE 1 PARTITION (if you only have 1, delete that) - now highlight the 'hidden partition', and click 'extend'. - it will ask for size.. enter the size of the partition you deleted or the remaining HD space you have. - format it and it will become a regular partition - now install :) now you no longer have to deal with these random errors!
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