Where is the start menu? ( Second time - Topic locked and not answered)

Where is the start Menu?

Most of employees can not function without a start menu. Will this be restored?

There was a roll out of Windows 8 machince that had to be returned since the employees could not figure out how to use Windows 8. The company lost a time and budget on this.

Windows 8.1 was to have start menu. I tried it but it was not there.

Mostly likely without this, the company will be sticking with Windows XP for the next 3 -4 years. Or until Windows has a start menu. Or will have to move to Linux.

Will this be the case for many others as well?

Third party start menus will not be used in the company.

Recreated this since it was locked and no explanation why it was locked. It has not been answered. Please explain why it was locked.


  • Edited by Under_info Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:17 PM
August 20th, 2013 3:07pm

Hello.

There's a start menu on 8.1. Did you update from store app or download? 

If your company are not ready to use Win 8, try to use Win 7.

See you

Where is it in Store?

Is it a third party? Or is it from MS?


  • Edited by Under_info Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:18 PM
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August 20th, 2013 3:18pm

Hi,

Athe release of the Windows 8 consumer preview, one of the most missing feature users were looking for was the Start Button. This is no secret. So, the Start button is back for good this time, in the taskbar of the classic desktop. If you click on it, you will turn back to the new Start Screen. And that Start Button leverage a new scenario in this generation of Windows products : You can now start your session directly on the classic desktop!

For your information, you can refer to this article Windows 8.1 : the new Start Menu to learn more about Start Menu on Windows 8.1 preview:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/designmichel/archive/2013/07/02/windows-8-1-the-new-start-menu.aspx

Regards,

Lany Zhang

  • Proposed as answer by Jordan Mills Tuesday, August 27, 2013 5:14 AM
  • Unproposed as answer by Under_info Friday, August 30, 2013 1:23 PM
August 20th, 2013 7:06pm

Click on start, start menu is there, you can click the little arrow and you get a better menu 
  • Proposed as answer by colakid Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:20 AM
  • Unproposed as answer by Under_info Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:47 PM
  • Proposed as answer by Carey FrischMVP Monday, September 30, 2013 6:15 PM
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August 31st, 2013 2:19am

reverse engineering is not allowed by MS. Why don't you use Classicshell if you want the so
September 30th, 2013 2:32pm

Read the EULA:
Are there things Im not allowed to do with the software? Yes. Because the software is licensed, not sold, Microsoft reserves all rights (such as rights under intellectual property laws) not expressly granted in this agreement. In particular, this license does not give you any right to, ..., reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the software,
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September 30th, 2013 9:01pm

Read the EULA:
Are there things Im not allowed to do with the software? Yes. Because the software is licensed, not sold, Microsoft reserves all rights (such as rights under intellectual property laws) not expressly granted in this agreement. In particular, this license does not give you any right to, ..., reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the software,
http://download.microsoft.com/Documents/UseTerms/Windows_8%20Pro_English_9fc31c44-7e65-4cbf-87b7-0a80ee2a21f
October 3rd, 2013 3:29pm

Who cares about the start menu?  After you actually use your computer, you install enough apps, and it becomes so cluttered it's useless.  At least with the start screen it's laid out over a much bigger surface area, so more of this stuff is visible per screen, and you can find whatever you're looking for more easily.  Have all you people actually tried the start screen?  No, seriously, what's the value add of a start menu other than it being the familiar old thing?
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October 3rd, 2013 4:54pm

Who cares about the start menu?  After you actually use your computer, you install enough apps, and it becomes so cluttered it's useless. 

People who place no particular importance on ORGANIZING things on their systems would think that, yes.

Professionals with big, complex workstations have many, many applications installed and generally organize their start menus into logical divisions of subfolders.

Windows 8 is headed toward becoming a toy operating system for people who don't really need real computers.

   

October 4th, 2013 5:30am

I have 22 things pinned on my taskbar (just counted), and those are the things I actually use every day.  I have abandoned organizing the Start menu/start screen, because it manages itself by means of Windows Installer; any changes I make easily get scrambled whenever there's a new update, new piece of software, a service pack for an existing piece of software, or I'm using the machine in my coworker's cube.  To be fair to developers, if I couldn't rely on knowing I can tell an end user "go to the start menu/start screen, find folder/group XYZ Rev N, and click APP.EXE," supporting software would be a nightmare.  I would argue that Windows 8 is headed toward becoming more useful, given that most people change computers quite a bit frequently.  (We have $10k workstations purchased 1, 2, and 4 years ago; guess which one nobody wants to use?)
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October 4th, 2013 10:17am

So you're justifying removing the ABILITY to organize because your users are mostly chaotic thinkers who just want to throw software into their computer and move on - presumably because taking the time to organize is too much like real work.

Good thinking.

Newsflash:  I check my start menu every time I install something.  Once it's organized it's not hard to keep it organized.  And I keep it so on 5 different systems.

But apparently chaotic thinkers are winning...  Applications are now avoiding offering the option of where to install their start menu shortcuts because Microsoft has moved away from encouraging organization.

So now we have a big morass of applications all thrown onto a screen somewhere.

Didn't someone once say that a desktop full of icons was a bad thing?  But now it's a good thing because it's on something called a Start Screen?  Ridiculous.

The problem is, Microsoft is making the fundamental flaw of trying to design systems per what the masses are doing.  People who don't know how to use computers very well have no business setting the trends for how systems are built.

  

October 4th, 2013 12:11pm

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