Where is the start Menu?

Most of employees can not function without a start menu. Will this be restored?

There was a roll out of Windows 8 machince that had to be returned since the employees could not figure out how to use Windows 8. The company lost a time and budget on this.

Windows 8.1 was to have start menu. I tried it but it was not there.

Mostly likely without this, the company will be sticking with Windows XP for the next 3 -4 years. Or until Windows has a start menu. Or will have to move to Linux.

Will this be the case for many others as well?

Third party start menus will not be used in the company.

Recreated this since it was locked and no explanation why it was locked. It has not been answered. Please explain why it was locked.

• Edited by Under_info Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:17 PM

Hello.

There's a start menu on 8.1. Did you update from store app or download? 

If your company are not ready to use Win 8, try to use Win 7.

See you

Hello.

There's a start menu on 8.1. Did you update from store app or download? 

If your company are not ready to use Win 8, try to use Win 7.

See you

Where is it in Store?

Is it a third party? Or is it from MS?

• Edited by Under_info Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:18 PM

Hi,

Athe release of the Windows 8 consumer preview, one of the most missing feature users were looking for was the Start Button. This is no secret. So, the Start button is back for good this time, in the taskbar of the classic desktop. If you click on it, you will turn back to the new Start Screen. And that Start Button leverage a new scenario in this generation of Windows products : You can now start your session directly on the classic desktop!

For your information, you can refer to this article Windows 8.1 : the new Start Menu to learn more about Start Menu on Windows 8.1 preview:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/designmichel/archive/2013/07/02/windows-8-1-the-new-start-menu.aspx

Regards,

Lany Zhang

• Proposed as answer by Jordan Mills Tuesday, August 27, 2013 5:14 AM
• Unproposed as answer by Under_info Friday, August 30, 2013 1:23 PM

Hi,

Athe release of the Windows 8 consumer preview, one of the most missing feature users were looking for was the Start Button. This is no secret. So, the Start button is back for good this time, in the taskbar of the classic desktop. If you click on it, you will turn back to the new Start Screen. And that Start Button leverage a new scenario in this generation of Windows products : You can now start your session directly on the classic desktop!

For your information, you can refer to this article Windows 8.1 : the new Start Menu to learn more about Start Menu on Windows 8.1 preview:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/designmichel/archive/2013/07/02/windows-8-1-the-new-start-menu.aspx

Regards,

Lany Zhang

Start Button is different from Start Menu.

Windows 8.1 has Start Button.

I am looing for the Start menu since users do not test well with the other option.

The Start Button is confusing for people. They can not find the program they need.

The Start Button is confusing for people. They can not find the program they need.

See if they like the All Apps screen any better then.  Note that they could also request by most used.  Settings are in the Taskbar and Navigation Properties dialog, Navigation tab.

 
Good luck

You will need to give up and use an Open Source solution like ClassicShell.  Vet the source code and build it yourself if you must.  It's not evil.

Or move to another, more serious operating system, as you have mentioned.

Microsoft is clearly not interested in returning a reasonable start menu to users, but instead has invented yet another way to mosey over to the Metro/Modern UI and of course blitz out whatever real work is on the desktop in the process.

Most folks experience "What happened?" followed by "Why was I here again?" then a little later "How do I get back to where I was?"  It's perfectly normal, and you're supposed to learn that it's a whole lot more fun than actually starting another mundane old desktop application.  Fun enough to make you toss your tablet parts to other folks and dance around on tabletops.

Those of you claiming how great Windows 8.1 is, let's drop this ridiculous game of "Emperor's New Clothes", shall we?

I already told you the official MS answer. there is no Startmenu because (according to Microsoft) it would confuse users to have 2 pl

As stated previously, simply pressing the Windows Logo Key [ ] (located on the keyboard between the CTRL and the ALT keys) will instantly launch the  Start Menu in Windows 8 or Wi

The Start Button is confusing for people. They can not find the program they need.

See if they like the All Apps screen any better then.  Note that they could also request by most used.  Settings are in the Taskbar and Navigation Properties dialog, Navigation tab.

Good luck

You will need to give up and use an Open Source solution like ClassicShell.  Vet the source code and build it yourself if you must.  It's not evil.

Or move to another, more serious operating system, as you have mentioned.

Microsoft is clearly not interested in returning a reasonable start menu to users, but instead has invented yet another way to mosey over to the Metro/Modern UI and of course blitz out whatever real work is on the desktop in the process.

Most folks experience "What happened?" followed by "Why was I here again?" then a little later "How do I get back to where I was?"  It's perfectly normal, and you're supposed to learn that it's a whole lot more fun than actually starting another mundane old desktop application.  Fun enough to make you toss your tablet parts to other folks and dance around on tabletops.

Those of you claiming how great Windows 8.1 is, let's drop this ridiculous game of "Emperor's New Clothes", shall we?

   

Previous Windows Start Menu = Old, Static & Obsolete

Windows 8 Start Screen = New, Dynamic & Versatile

---> Windows 8 Webin

What linux or other system would you recommand?

To be honest Windows 7 is still perfectly viable.

The ONLY thing so far that I've found I can do with Windows 8 that is problematic (but not impossible) with Windows 7 is the ability to mount .iso files and see into them.  Unfortunately, this does not offset the many deletions of functionality one once had in Windows 7.

Given that, beyond the overt user manipulation Microsoft attempts, todays operating systems are more like the beta or even alpha releases of yesteryear, it might well be the right approach for you just to wave off Windows 8.1 for a while, start thinking about Windows 8.0, and stay conservative by continuing to run (and order new systems with) Windows 7.  Being completely frank, right now there are no real alternatives that would be anything less than incredibly painful to switch an enterprise over to.

When does the advice to "run the old system and wait and see" turn to "OMG, we really really need something else"?  Great question.  We all have secret hopes that they'll get back on the straight and narrow and release an amazing version 9, but the ship may just be too big to turn away from the icebergs.  I think if we see something of Windows 9 and it seems worse than ever (or just no better than Windows 8) that's the time to seriously think about abandoning ship.

If keeping current is important to you, you could go with Windows 8 (.0).  Windows 8 took until about mid summer 2013 to reach a level of maturity (e.g., by the heroic actions of 3rd party developers re-adding deprecated functionality) that I wouldn't just throw it in the lake today if it came on a new computer system.  So what's that, about a year after release before it's a viable candidate to be the basis for a serious computing environment?

Previous Windows Start Menu = Old, Static & Obsolete

Windows 8 Start Screen = New, Dynamic & Versatile

---> Windows 8 Webin

This Microsoft TechNet Forum is dedicated to discussing the finer points of Windows 8.1.  If you have an interest in Linux, please visit the more appropriate Linux Forums for in

What linux or other system would you recommand?

To be honest Windows 7 is still perfectly viable.

The ONLY thing so far that I've found I can do with Windows 8 that is problematic (but not impossible) with Windows 7 is the ability to mount .iso files and see into them.  Unfortunately, this does not offset the many deletions of functionality one once had in Windows 7.

Given that, beyond the overt user manipulation Microsoft attempts, todays operating systems are more like the beta or even alpha releases of yesteryear, it might well be the right approach for you just to wave off Windows 8.1 for a while, start thinking about Windows 8.0, and stay conservative by continuing to run (and order new systems with) Windows 7.  Being completely frank, right now there are no real alternatives that would be anything less than incredibly painful to switch an enterprise over to.

When does the advice to "run the old system and wait and see" turn to "OMG, we really really need something else"?  Great question.  We all have secret hopes that they'll get back on the straight and narrow and release an amazing version 9, but the ship may just be too big to turn away from the icebergs.  I think if we see something of Windows 9 and it seems worse than ever (or just no better than Windows 8) that's the time to seriously think about abandoning ship.

If keeping current is important to you, you could go with Windows 8 (.0).  Windows 8 took until about mid summer 2013 to reach a level of maturity (e.g., by the heroic actions of 3rd party developers re-adding deprecated functionality) that I wouldn't just throw it in the lake today if it came on a new computer system.  So what's that, about a year after release before it's a viable candidate to be the basis for a serious computing environment?

Who removed the above info?

Has any manufacture problems with this?

I heard that Lenovo will be using a third party app to get Start Menu.

Would MS release the source code for the start menu in order for developers to bring the MS start menu back using MS code?

Has any manufacture problems with this?

I heard that Lenovo will be using a third party app to get Start Menu.

Would MS release the source code for the start menu in order for developers to bring the MS start menu back using MS code?

Lenovo has kind of a start menu app built into their OEM install but it's not real functional and very redundant.  I disabled it on our user Windows 8 PC's.  Our users mainly use a combination of start screen icons, icons attached to the task bar, icons on the desktop with a desktop toolbar to get the functionality of the start menu.

• Proposed as answer by colakid Saturday, August 31, 2013 9:20 AM
• Unproposed as answer by Under_info Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:47 PM

Would MS release the source code for the start menu in order for developers to bring the MS start menu back using MS code?

Why would you care whether you have the original Microsoft code?  Don't look now but as programmers Microsoft isn't all that good at writing quality code.  Basically they prototype something and if it passes a basic sniff test it goes into the product.  It's only been in the past few years they've actually started optimizing anything at all.

Just get ClassicShell.  It's more responsive and more functional than Microsoft's Start Menu code was, and it's perfectly stable.  If you doubt it's better, just go into Windows 7 or earlier, and bring up the Control Panel off the Start menu.  Note how long it takes to populate.  Now do the same with ClassicShell.

As far as people trying to make do with what's there in Windows 8.1, more power to them.  However, some folks simply can't tolerate their entire workspace being replaced by something else.  It derails their train of thought to have to lose track of what they were working on visually.  Of course the people whose minds aren't organized that way can't understand why it's difficult for the others.

Would MS release the source code for the start menu in order for developers to bring the MS start menu back using MS code?

Why would you care whether you have the original Microsoft code?  Don't look now but as programmers Microsoft isn't all that good at writing quality code.  Basically they prototype something and if it passes a basic sniff test it goes into the product.  It's only been in the past few years they've actually started optimizing anything at all.

Just get ClassicShell.  It's more responsive and more functional than Microsoft's Start Menu code was, and it's perfectly stable.  If you doubt it's better, just go into Windows 7 or earlier, and bring up the Control Panel off the Start menu.  Note how long it takes to populate.  Now do the same with ClassicShell.

As far as people trying to make do with what's there in Windows 8.1, more power to them.  However, some folks simply can't tolerate their entire workspace being replaced by something else.  It derails their train of thought to have to lose track of what they were working on visually.  Of course the people whose minds aren't organized that way can't understand why it's difficult for the others.

Will MS release the code for the start menu?

Anyone form MS, Will you release the code for the start menu?

This way IT departments could bring a feature back that is need for common users, which is about 97% of people in the work force.

MS will never release the source code. Use ClassicShell and compile it your own if you don't trust any pre-compiled t

MS will never release the source code. Use ClassicShell and compile it your own if you don't trust any pre-compiled t