Not so Charming Charms Bar

I am using windows 8, and my remote machines are running windows 8 and server 2012

I find it really annoying that when I am connected to a server or other remote machine using remote desktop services, I move my cursor to the top corner to bring up the charms bar to restart the REMOTE machine, and it ends up restarting my machine.......this doesn't happen every time, but it happens enough times for me to get very frustrated!


October 12th, 2012 12:08pm

When you press the restart , it should restart right away.

What is the model of system that you are running Windows 8?

Are you running on virtual enviroments?

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October 12th, 2012 8:21pm

I believe he means his local machines charm bar comes up instead and restarting it rather than his remote. This would upset me too. I'll have try it on mine. 
October 12th, 2012 9:06pm

i might develop a reboot app for remote users

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October 12th, 2012 9:27pm

I have a Java script I use to bring up the shutdown menu. Just never thought about it being useful for remote.
October 12th, 2012 9:44pm

LOL, like Microsoft gives a hoot what you tell them to do, even if you use all caps.

Problem #1:  You're trying to do real work with a Windows 8 system, which it wasn't designed for.

Problem #2:  You're trying to do RDP full-screen on your primary monitor.

Do you actually believe Microsoft has thought through how all this stuff interacts?

If you're not willing to use a window or a second monitor to control remote systems, may I suggest using the Shutdown command, or install a reasonable UI improvement (ClassicShell) to help you be more sure of what machine you're shutting down.


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October 12th, 2012 11:30pm

Or instead of going on anti-Windows 8 rants, you can use the new functionality they included for such things.  If you're using a full-screen RDP window, select charms from the RDP drop down, as seen in the attached screen shot.

October 13th, 2012 3:53am

I'm certainly not anti-windows 8 at all. I just find it annoying that MS has not thought about its audience properly or even discovered this could be a slight issue when connecting to remote machine. if the mouse isn't put quite in the right place it will end up bringing up the local machine's charms bar instead of the remote systems - and its not that difficult to reproduce this problem.

I was never aware of the drop down menu you have shown, such small things tend to get forgotten about when you are so used it not being there - I will try that method from now, its probably more reliable

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October 13th, 2012 9:16pm

Thanks for all of your feedbacks, I am sure some improvement will happen to resolve this issue.
October 14th, 2012 1:17pm

Can we just have the ability to kill the whole Metro thing from the server environment? It's not like it does any good to even have it on the server....we can't even buy things from the store. How much time did Microsoft waste on shoving the useless Metro start screen into the server...when they could have focused that effort on building new and cool features? I'm running Windows server in a VM right now...and it's pissing me off to no end to hit the charms bar. I have to fidget with the mouse constantly to get the charms to pull up...then slowly slide the mouse down and how that I don't miss the Charms option. It's hunt and peck...and completely stupid to the way everything worked fine in Server 2008R2. My other option is to print out a list of the Windows key commands and tape it to the side of my computer...another completely stupid thing to now have to do.

I LOVE Windows Server 2012...don't get me wrong...the claims-based and hyperV are awesome among other things. The Metro interface, however, simply reeks. It's like the dog poo that gets stuck to the bottom of your nice shoes.

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November 11th, 2012 3:05am

you can run hyper-v on a bare machine and virtualize work on top of that

then you can use any server you want and manage all from system center

November 11th, 2012 3:15am

Hi Steve,

I posted a response to a similar thread here:

Basically, it goes like this...

If you're using Windows 8 Remote Desktop (I certainly prefer this over the traditional RDP or Remote Desktop Connection Manager) there is a simpler solution, do one of the following:

  1. Right-click on the top banner to bring up the application menu
  2. Move your mouse to the bottom edge of the screen and right-click

For Server 2012 connections, in addition to the usual options you also have shortcut/send keys for; Start, Charms, Application Commands and Switch Apps. 



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January 3rd, 2013 11:23am

I installed 8 in Hyper-V and tested it out and the charms worked easy with the remote desktop. On the server however it was more of a precision to job to get the charms to work when it was in the console window

On the sever a finger would have had a rough time to invoke the charm bar using a touch screen.

January 3rd, 2013 3:53pm

Who is ever going to use touch on a virtualised server? Does RDP support touch? No it does not, when you swipe from the left if brings the charms up on the local machine. Get rid of the search charm crap too, it is laggy across RDP, another not so well thought out strategy.

On a positive, I have updated all my file servers to 2012 just for the de-dupe feature, saved me 600GB over two files servers.

Hopefully Microsoft actually monitor and listen to these forums.

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July 7th, 2013 9:06am

I have been using my Wacom pad more of late simply to acclimate to some of the gestures a touch OS will use.

The driver is a tad slow for the two finger drag up and down, then again its calibrated for a mouse wheel

my basic wireless mouse works ok, and the wheel works fine with longer documents 

my Wacom pad has a stylus which is absolute location and it can bring up charms more easily due to its exact precision

large capacitive touch screens are still too expensive for my current budget

July 7th, 2013 9:21am

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