How goals were set for ADK test

blog says that , we can say that there is some problem only if it shows red. 

In below image we can see red color for main path boot duration. But if we expand it, there is actually no red color but yellow.

There is one yellow mark shown which made Main path boot duration go beyond threshold value. How can this happen?

we have goals set for only two components, one is explorer initialization phase (1) and other is resume devices duration(2). Out of those two 1 is green and 2 is yellow, then total result should be yellow but not red.

Again , yellow means not very ciritical and user can live with it. 
 
This all one part. Now after running test we are seeing light purple, medium purple and dark purple which is explained in this  link.

Details in this page maps light purple to green, medium to yellow and red to dark purple. Now again question is , after running ADK test. (Is this mapping correct?)

if we see some exes are taking more than threshold value, (can find these by searching on windows assessment console page).

how do debug those?

1. What is the starting point for measuring that time? How it is decided?

2. How are metrics defined? (<150 light purple / green , >150 - <300 medium purple / yellow , >300 is dark purple or red). what is the criteria.

3. Does exe owner should have any job if it is seen in shutdown process? ( Since OS has control over shutdown process, I am assuming app owner can't help here, please confirm)

4. When will apps get started, after explorer initialization?



February 11th, 2015 11:59pm

http://blogs.technet.com/b/mspfe/archive/2012/09/19/measure-boot-performance-with-the-windows-assessment-and-deployment-toolkit.aspx -- > This is the blog.
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February 12th, 2015 12:00am

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/jj130841.aspx  --> This is msdn article which talks about purple color.



February 12th, 2015 12:02am

Hi Sarath,

2. How are metrics defined? (<150 light purple / green , >150 - <300 medium purple / yellow , >300 is dark purple or

red). what is the criteria.
Please navigate to this path : %PROGRAMFILES%\Windows Kits\8.1\Assessment and Deployment Kit\Windows Assessment Toolkit\SDK\Samples\Goals
Open it with the notepad and Ctrl "F",input "<value>".Check these values ,each of the value is a comparison standard of each part .

"Does exe owner should have any job if it is seen in shutdown process?"
Yes ,they will be given a chance to save the present data and settings .
Here is a link for reference(shutdown part) :
Delivering fast boot times in Windows 8
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/09/08/delivering-fast-boot-times-in-windows-8.aspx

"4. When will apps get started, after explorer initialization? "
Yes ,here is a link for reference .It is an example of Windows 7 ,but the contens in it can be useful as a reference :
The Windows 7 Boot Process (sbsl)
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/11341.the-windows-7-boot-process-sbsl.aspx

Best regards


  • Edited by MeipoXu 1 hour 57 minutes ago
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February 13th, 2015 4:52am

Thanks a lot Meipoxu, this clarifies few of my concerns.

2. How are metrics defined? (<150 light purple / green , >150 - <300 medium purple / yellow , >300 is dark purple or

red). what is the criteria.
Please navigate to this path : %PROGRAMFILES%\Windows Kits\8.1\Assessment and Deployment Kit\Windows Assessment Toolkit\SDK\Samples\Goals
Open it with the notepad and Ctrl "F",input "<value>".Check these values ,each of the value is a comparison standard of each part .

Could you provide more details on this. When run ADK test sometimes we see that explorer.exe (and some other exes) is taking more time. How the threshold value is decided? how OS is saying that a particular exe should not take more than 300ms during shutdown?

is this mapping correct?

>150 light purple  or green

 >150 - <300 medium purple  or yellow

 >300 is dark purple or red

And any idea about other queries?


February 13th, 2015 6:20am

Hi Sarath,

2. How are metrics defined? (<150 light purple / green , >150 - <300 medium purple / yellow , >300 is dark purple or

red). what is the criteria.
Please navigate to this path : %PROGRAMFILES%\Windows Kits\8.1\Assessment and Deployment Kit\Windows Assessment Toolkit\SDK\Samples\Goals
Open it with the notepad and Ctrl "F",input "<value>".Check these values ,each of the value is a comparison standard of each part .

"Does exe owner should have any job if it is seen in shutdown process?"
Yes ,they will be given a chance to save the present data and settings .
Here is a link for reference(shutdown part) :
Delivering fast boot times in Windows 8
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/09/08/delivering-fast-boot-times-in-windows-8.aspx

"4. When will apps get started, after explorer initialization? "
Yes ,here is a link for reference .It is an example of Windows 7 ,but the contens in it can be useful as a reference :
The Windows 7 Boot Process (sbsl)
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/11341.the-windows-7-boot-process-sbsl.aspx

Best regards


  • Edited by MeipoXu Friday, February 13, 2015 9:48 AM
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February 13th, 2015 12:48pm

Hi Sarath,

2. How are metrics defined? (<150 light purple / green , >150 - <300 medium purple / yellow , >300 is dark purple or

red). what is the criteria.
Please navigate to this path : %PROGRAMFILES%\Windows Kits\8.1\Assessment and Deployment Kit\Windows Assessment Toolkit\SDK\Samples\Goals
Open it with the notepad and Ctrl "F",input "<value>".Check these values ,each of the value is a comparison standard of each part .

"Does exe owner should have any job if it is seen in shutdown process?"
Yes ,they will be given a chance to save the present data and settings .
Here is a link for reference(shutdown part) :
Delivering fast boot times in Windows 8
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/09/08/delivering-fast-boot-times-in-windows-8.aspx

"4. When will apps get started, after explorer initialization? "
Yes ,here is a link for reference .It is an example of Windows 7 ,but the contens in it can be useful as a reference :
The Windows 7 Boot Process (sbsl)
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/11341.the-windows-7-boot-process-sbsl.aspx

Best regards


  • Edited by MeipoXu Friday, February 13, 2015 9:48 AM
February 13th, 2015 12:48pm

Hi Sarath,

2. How are metrics defined? (<150 light purple / green , >150 - <300 medium purple / yellow , >300 is dark purple or

red). what is the criteria.
Please navigate to this path : %PROGRAMFILES%\Windows Kits\8.1\Assessment and Deployment Kit\Windows Assessment Toolkit\SDK\Samples\Goals
Open it with the notepad and Ctrl "F",input "<value>".Check these values ,each of the value is a comparison standard of each part .

"Does exe owner should have any job if it is seen in shutdown process?"
Yes ,they will be given a chance to save the present data and settings .
Here is a link for reference(shutdown part) :
Delivering fast boot times in Windows 8
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/09/08/delivering-fast-boot-times-in-windows-8.aspx

"4. When will apps get started, after explorer initialization? "
Yes ,here is a link for reference .It is an example of Windows 7 ,but the contens in it can be useful as a reference :
The Windows 7 Boot Process (sbsl)
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/11341.the-windows-7-boot-process-sbsl.aspx

Best regards


  • Edited by MeipoXu Friday, February 13, 2015 9:48 AM
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February 13th, 2015 12:48pm

Hi Sarath,

Have you checked the standardgoals.xml files in this path  %PROGRAMFILES%\Windows Kits\8.1\Assessment and Deployment Kit\Windows Assessment Toolkit\SDK\Samples\Goals ?

It is just a comparison standard ,we can make our own goal files as the link said .
"You can create custom goals to measure your improvements in the Results View. Goals files are a triage tool that can help you understand how a PC is performing and to compare PCs in your business"

Results for the Full Boot Assessment
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/jj130841.aspx

As for further analyzing ,we just need to choose the specific one and then navigate to the right side and then choose WPA in deep analysis.It seems that the ones have issues can be deeply analyzed .

Best regards

February 17th, 2015 3:38am

thanks for your reply MeipoXu.

I have gone through the goals xml file but didn't understand what it says. This is the first time I am running ADK and don't know to do in depth analysis.

if possible could you share a link which explain step by step procedure for doing WPA in - depth analysis.

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