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Have Comments about Windows 7? (Part 4 - Do not post questions in this thread)

January 15th, 2010 5:27pm

February 8th, 2010 4:34pm

To all forum users: Please use this thread to note any comments that you have about Windows 7. Do not use this thread for any specific question or issue that you are having - it is just for comments or feedback. For questions/issues that require an answer, create a new thread. PLEASE DO NOT USE THIS THREAD TO DISCUSS WINDOWS 7 BETA OR WINDOWS 7 RC. This thread is a continuation from Have Comments about Windows 7? (Part 3) .

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Do not like Windows 7 at all. Some of my basic display options in Control Panel have been lumped together not allowing me to see what's on my screen MY WAY. For the basic computer user, this is a big minus. Seriously considering going MAC so I am not prey to Windows OS.

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February 8th, 2010 8:14pm

Hi SanmartinThis thread is for feedback only, not for questions or discussions about other members posts.Everyone has a right to their opinion, without the need to be questioned, explain, or justify that opinion and without becoming a target for derogatory comments about their opinion. If a member wants to get an answer for a problem, they can start another thread.The last iteration of this comments thread degraded into a very long, argumentative, futile, and negative exercise because of this exact behavior. Your post was removed for this reason.If you have your own personal comments, you are welcome to post them here.Thanks for understanding.

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February 9th, 2010 9:12am

Sorry, Ronnie,I didn't mean it that way. However, I appreciate greatly being informed of the reasons to remove the post.Best regards, Sanmartin."I think there is a world market for maybe five computers. (Thomas J. Watson, Sr.)

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February 9th, 2010 11:20am

One more comment to Windows Explorer: In system control you have options which action to be selected when inserting a media, for example: open a folder (WE opens a new window), play, ask which action, AND "none". The behaviour of WE is not consistent: If i select the action "none", no new window is opened, but the existing open window is closed if the focus is on a medium, which i remove on the fly. This behaviour is correct, if i select the option "open folder" (new we window with focus on medium), but if "none" when inserting then please "none" when removing! PS: please no comments like " why you remove on the fly", or "change focus" and so on!

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February 9th, 2010 11:31am

New issue - Windows Media Player 12 cannot play wmv files. Display an error about unsuported format :DStrange - it's linked to the sound card. In this case an Conexant Cocoa II Smart Sound. If I check in the sound properties to disable all enhancements ( strange - no enhancemet was checked ) it can play normally.New issue - Windows Media Player 12 - black screen permanently until system restart when playing AVCHD x264 or MPEG 2 files using DXVA on ATI series 5xxxHD with latest driver. Problems seems generated by ATI driver - AVIVO. The case of an ASUS K52JR with ATI 5470HD. SOlved by unchecking DXVA in player options.

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February 9th, 2010 2:35pm

February 9th, 2010 3:36pm

February 9th, 2010 10:32pm

at this point i cannot believe that Microsoft admitted to that fact that there was a battery issue or a battery mettering issue in Windows 7. Interestingly enough i am running into that problem with my tc4400 but only for my secondary battery and the battery was not even that old. the battery litterary died within using Windows 7 after a month. then i started using the external 12 cell battery with my other tc4400 that ran vista. it tooks two months in order for the battery to start running normally again. and than, i put the 12 cell secondary battery back with my Windows 7 tc4400 and the secondary battery died three days later. and only the first time i connected the secondary battery to my tc4400 that had Windows 7 installed on it, it gave me that darn consider replacing you battery issue. i just hope Microsoft and their OEM partners like HP in which we purcyhase our notebook PCs from will find a fix for this issue.
Yeah, that is very disappointing. Hopefully there will be a fix or update soon!
how much do you want to bet? lol as long as the prinary battery battery is not affected i guess i will be ok. my prinary battery gives me a maximum of 5 hours of use. when use both my primary and secondary batteries with my tc4400 i get up to 16 hours of battery life. and with this damned issue, my maximum battery life gets sucked down to 3 hours. what the ____? at least taking out the secondary battery and using the sleep feature in Windows 7 to recalibrate the primary battery will get my battery life back up to 5 hours. :) but the calibration method does not fix the secondary battery. alls it does is getting it working again for a day or two after recalibrating it two or three times in sleep mode which takes about 36+ hours for the secondary battery and 24+ hours for the primary battery.i miss some of the older HP and Compaq notebooks. at least the EVO and ARMADA series notebooks had a battery calibration utility right in the BIOS just for this purpose. in fact i am even using using the EVO N600c with Windows 7 and it seems to be working fine with it, but of course then i had to upgrade certain components in the laptop to get it compatible with the OS. good thing i have the battery calibration utility in the BIOS just in case the Windows 7 battery issue starts to appear. in my opinion Microsoft should just add a Battery calibration utility in Windows 7 that way you won't need top use sleep mode to discharge the battery and at the same time you will be able to use your PC while the laptop's battery is recalibrating, but of course then the PC will have to be plugged in...

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February 10th, 2010 1:12am

I am using Windows 7 on a desktop and it works fine. Now if I could find a video card that lasts I would be ecstatic. I have had it on my machine since I got my DVDs on October 9th, 2009 and its still working fine. Very few programs do not work well but I am patient as developers figure out what they did wrong. Live Messenger is flaky. Firefox has crashed a few times, but not to the point of being unusable. IE8 crashes too, so its likely a dodgy web page. Vote if answered or helpful, I am running for Office (joke)!
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February 10th, 2010 5:11am

Not a Windows 7 issue, but related to Windows 7:At Microsoft Download Center page if I search Windows 7 updates for last 30 days or even last 90 days - it says there is no update. If I don't put any period it gives me beta and RC updates only. But there are updates. 2 months before it shows corectly, but now, not. If I know the KB number - it finds them.Come on guys, is this support ?

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February 10th, 2010 7:36am

Feature expansion tip 1:It would be really nice to expand Aero Shake by allowing shaking the icon in the taskbar to let all programs minimize except the instances of the program being shaked. E.g. shaking the explorer icon would minimize all instances of wmp, ie, msn ect., but leave all the explorer windows like they were.Feature expansion tip 2:Aero Snap, make gridding with snap possible in window stacking options. Side by side and simple top to bottom stacking is a bit outdated, especially considering new high resolution screens.

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February 10th, 2010 12:33pm

I'm still waiting for the W7 fixes for ASIO drivers. It worked before W7 final but not on W7 final.

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February 10th, 2010 4:21pm

Where should post question about window 7?

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February 10th, 2010 4:40pm

Guys, you are "fantastics". New "feature" after installing an nVidia driver though WU:"Eject Video Controler ( VGA Compatible )" apears in System Tray....

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February 11th, 2010 8:36am

Bugs ==============================
Content view doesn't work in CPL\Programs and Features, tiles view is used with smaller tiles.

Large icons are, from what I can tell, stored in thumbcache_96. CPL\Backgrounds uses a size only just marginally smaller than this but stores its thumbnails in thumbcache_256. This awkward distinction causes CPL\Backgrounds to create a thumbnail image when a perfectly viable thumbcache_96 image is available. CPL\Backgrounds should be set to use the Large icons setting by default and it should create to and pull its thumbnails from thumbcache_96, as Explorer seems to.

When Windows Explorer is fullscreen on a secondary display the breadcrumb/search bar will not drop down unless the user puts the mouse under the search box. Normally any part of the top edge of the screen should.

When WMP is playing video fullscreen, whether on a secondary display or not, its taskbar thumbnail appears entirely black. If you hover over the window (WMP's actual window) then quickly back onto the taskbar thumbnail you'll see the UI bits (media controls and such) appear. So only the video refuses to show. The taskbar should show WMP's display regardless of its window state.

Complaints =========================
WMP needs a Show playlist button. Also the lack of continuity with the position of the Switch to x mode button is annoying.

Clicking the Find more search providers button under than Search split button menu opens the ieaddons.com search provider gallery over the current tab rather than opening a new one.

In Windows Explorer the Play button on my keyboard causes selected media files or folders to be opened in Windows Media Player rather than pausing my currently playing media.

Open file location isn't present on the context menu of items on the Start Menu MFU/Pinnedlist while it is on the All Programs side. It should be visible to both.

The distinction between admin/standard user versions of Performance options is not defined.

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February 11th, 2010 11:50pm

Where should post question about window 7?
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February 12th, 2010 12:18am

I request Microsoft again to take a look at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_features_removed_in_Windows_Vista
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_features_removed_in_Windows_7
and fix all of these issues in Windows 7 Service Pack 1. Classic Shell addresses many of the shell/Explorer-related issues but can't fix them all and there are dozens of other annoyances too affecting other components like WMP, audio, networking, servicing and other little features gone because of MS's stupid incorrect decisions. Give back our choices which have been removed and only then we will move up from XP.

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February 12th, 2010 12:47pm

A question: have MS an idea about when we can use .dds files without trouble in W7? Since the first beta we claim for it.I'm still waiting for the working-then-fixed-now-not-working ASIO drivers.

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February 12th, 2010 6:16pm

We have Lenovo laptops where we used the Presentation Director for meetings in our conference room. I just upgraded our Lenovo laptops from Windows Vista to Windows 7. Lenovo is not upgrading Presentation Director to work with Windows 7 because of Windows Mobility Center. Unfortunately, Windows Mobility Center doesn't offer the same flexablity that Presentation Director did. It would be nice to have those options available in Windows Mobility Center. Presentation Director allowed you to set the monitor to its native resolution and then set the projector/monitor to its native resolution. For instance, we could set the LCD on our laptop to 1280 x 800 and the resolution on our widescreen LCD television to 1280 x 768. That made the display on the widescreen television almost perfect. In addition you could save that profile to use again. Windows Moblity Center only allows you to set the LCD monitor to 1280 x 1025, 1024 x 768 or 800 x 600 which works great for a projector but not for a widescreen television. The closest option I have is to set the laptop display to 1280 x 1024 and then when I set the resolution of the widescreen television to its native resolution it displays the LCD screen stretched to fit the screen. Windows Mobility Center is a poor substitute for Presentation Manager and I would recommend that Microsoft make some upgrades to it as I have suggested. I can't imagine there aren't other people out there encountering the same issues I have described.

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February 12th, 2010 9:10pm

I find it unbelievable that Windows 7 does not provide an EXACT phrase search capability. I have thousands and thousands of documents on my computer. Using your search engine DOES NOT return an exact phrase match. -- You can say, put it in single quotes, double quotes, or whatever you want, but it DOES NOT work. If you try to enter a phase with two words, you get all documents that contain both words. That IS NOT an exact phrase. THAT is an OR or possibly an AND search. I haven't gone through all my documents to be sure that both words are in the document. My point is that hundreds of documents are returned and when you go into MS Word to look for the phrase, guess what? It can't find it. Both words may be in the document, but they are not together. --- Which in my feeble mind is the definition of an exact phrase search. I have called technical support on several occasions and get the same results. NO ANSWERS! Maybe it will be in a future update. --- Well, how about NOW?

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February 13th, 2010 1:34am

Things I hope to see fixed in SP1 (design changes):- Windows Explorer: Turning off auto sorting (all views including list view, details view etc) and auto arrange (icon views) and toggling "Align to Grid" in any folder. Auto sort SHOULD BE optional- Windows Explorer: Take ownership of or set permissions on multiple files or folders like XP could- Windows Explorer: Bring back IColumnProvider for columns in Explorer- Windows Explorer: Show icons on 16-bit EXEs correctly- Windows Explorer: Property handlers for more formats like MP4/M4A, MKV so we can edit metadata for these files- Windows Explorer: When navigating to a folder from a library, respect each folder's individual view instead of using the library view- Windows Explorer: Make Explorer remember individual folder window sizes and positions- Windows Explorer: Bring back icons on the command bar in Windows Explorer and common application dialogs for Open/Save- Windows Explorer: Bring back the Sort bar used to sort and filter in any view (not just details view)- Windows Explorer: Arrange By & Stack By options in any folder, not just libraries- Windows Explorer: Make sorting in Explorer from Edit menu not de-select the selected items- Windows Explorer/Search: GUI for doing advanced searches so we don't have to remember the Advanced Query Syntax- Windows Explorer: Ability to turn off ClearType entirely throughout the OS for those with CRT monitors- Windows Explorer: Remember Explorer toolbar positions correctly (not force RBBS_BREAK style for every band)- Windows Explorer: Bring back the Share overlay icon for shared items in Explorer - Windows Explorer: Sharing=0 and background customization parameters supported in desktop.ini- Windows Explorer: Full row selection in Details view optional- Shell: Customizable game shortcuts in Games Explorer- Shell: File Type secondary action/association functionality and ability to specific switches/parameters when defining a file association- Shell: Volume control window should be minimizable like XP- Shell: Please support 64-bit WebDAV (Web folders) client.- Taskbar/Shell: Direct access to ethernet/LAN connection settings, connection status from Network icon/View Available Networks (VAN) UI- Taskbar: Ability to drag taskbands off the taskbar and to other sides of the screen as toolbars- Taskbar: Include volume control and progress bar in WMP12's taskbar thumbnail- Taskbar: Show the number of combined taskbar windows- Taskbar: Bring back network activity animation on Network Connections icon in the notification area- Taskbar: Power plan issue: Show all available plans (not just 3 or 2)- Taskbar: When grouping is disabled, the ability to manage multiple taskbar items using multiselect (Ctrl+click) to tile, cascade, minimize or close the selected group of windows - Windows Photo Viewer and Windows Live Photo Gallery: Should properly show animated GIFs- Start Menu: Should show folder infotips/tooltips stored in Desktop.ini- Start Menu: should be able to launch multiple apps by holding down Shift like Classic Start menu allowed- Start Menu: Expand Connect To into a flyout menu like XP Start menu- Logon screen: Domain names should be populated on the logon screen in a drop down list like XP- Logon screen: Override Autologon by pressing the SHIFT key before logon- Credential Manager: Ability to change stored domain password while client is connected to a workstation like XP's Stored User names and passwords could.- WDDM: Full screen console windows- WDDM: Stretching the desktop across multiple monitors i.e. horizontal spanning- SAPI: Bring back backward compatibility with all older SAPI 5 voices- Audio: Per app default device so that simultaneous output is possible- Audio: Balloon notifcation does not play sound any more. Please fix this.- Windows Image Acquisition: Bring back video support- Task Manager: Bring back Shutdown menu as when Explorer is crashed or can't be run, it's not easy to shutdown/restart- Windows Media Player: Bring back Color Chooser, Advanced Tag Editor, Media Link for E-mail and Prty Mode- Windows Defender: Software Explorer - Group Policy: Filtering policies to show only a specific operating system or application

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February 13th, 2010 10:19am

I hope MS fixed this on SP1:- Windows Explorer: back to the XP way, I mean set every window individually on postion and size.- Windows Explorer: the status bar is huge in comparition to the XP one, bu it had less or useless info. I need (and I assume I'm not the only one) the size of the file I selected or the size of the fileS selected.- Windows Explorer: why when you make double-click on a file the corresponding app most of the time is opened back of the explorer window. It is absurd.- Windows search: it sucks, please, back to the XP one and, if you want to do this better, use a simple checkboxes-options way.And, of course: if it's not broken, DON'T FIXED IT!!!!!!!!

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February 13th, 2010 4:20pm

February 14th, 2010 1:43am

As a suggestion M$, for the problem with kb977074 and related updates, look into conflicts with USB ports. Repairing a W7 install tonight caused by updates, I found that there was a conflict with an external USB port extender.
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February 14th, 2010 7:06pm

I don't mean to make light of your issue, but I swear in the back of my head I heard a little voice say, "We have ways of making you conform to our preferences for the user interface".I think it's safe to say that Windows 7 is the sunset of the "have it your way" user interface.Of course, this kind of behavior is not new; all through the ages Windows would slowly (or not so slowly) forget where you liked things, what views you preferred, etc. Maybe some of the old remedies (e.g., involving BagsMRU, etc.) to get Explorer to remember things for a longer time might help with this issue?-Noel
Don't mean to burst your colorful bubble. but Win 7 is in no way close to a "sunset of the "have it your way" user interface."
Win 7 did not finish what it started.
Shall I get started...
Win 7: Dual display, you cant have a unique desktop picture for each monitor . OS X does and always has!
Win 7: All programs menu, does not use the whole hight of the screen! Why?
does not combine alphabetically files and folders why the fudge not? OS X does and allways has! no need to sort no need to refresh no manual manipulation!
Shall I continue?
Ok
Win 7: Blue tooth If windows stack dont work try Bluesoleil. if that dont work try toshiba if that dont work screw around with drivers if that dont work buy another bluetooth dongle and repeat : OS X plug Dongle + hit add new device!

Win 7: Control panel, resize window and all you icons get moved. An other annoying visual search search.
why are there 2 device manager locations, the other is in system, What's the difference between Device Manager and Device and printers. If you manage devices dont you automaticly manage printers?
Why is Phone and Modem not in device manager? what is an Action Center? Personalization If you look at the bottom you will see icons.... dont you find it looks more like a short list of active preferences..
OS X: system preferences has 5 rows and each row with a max of 7 icons

Personal
Hardware
Internet&Network
system
Other

Right this instant you want to change your display settings... what row would you select?
how about your desktop pic?

How about Explorer, what the ____ have they done! It's worst then before.
They copied the OS X left nav column and failed miserably to understand what you need to do to take advantage of that layout.

Microsoft will never be able to supply the user an intuitive, simple and enjoyable experience until they as a whole destroy there 20 some odd years of geeky nerdy closed minded old school, I dont give a hoot, closed minded programming attitude and start with a new slate. Until that day comes NOTHING will really ever change.
I can safely say that the changes made to Win 7 where forced open them by OS X.
It's like asking your teenaged kid, by twisting his arm, to clean the dishes..... some how you have to redo them!

I for one have been working with Win and Mac for the past 15 years and every time I start comparing both with an open mind without prejudges I quickly get frustrated with windows so much I cracked 3 keyboards and smashed 2 Win OS hd's with a hammer to let steam out.

Sorry guys but for logic and an intuitiveness OS ... OS X crushes Win 7 like a 2 ton elephant stepping on an ant!

Right now I say Windows is only good gaming and OS X is for unmatched user production!
sure some programs are for Windows only but port them to OS X and you'll see a much bigger torrent of switchers.

BTW I'm writing this post on Win7!

So ken212
If you want a better user experience I suggest you stop buy a friend with a mac and play with it for a couple of hours. try to do with it what you are trying to do with you Win 7 and draw your own conclusion.

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February 14th, 2010 9:40pm

Why compare Windows with OSX? Even in its hobbled state with a broken Explorer and other UI quirks it beats the pants off that dumbed down system. Honestly, using a Mac makes me feel like I've dropped back about 10 years and down about 30 IQ points.-Noel

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February 15th, 2010 6:19am

I just installed Windows 7 and should've known to look to forums prior to upgrading; after all I have been working with computer hardware and software since 1978. I've had my favorite applications and Operating Systems along the way which by and large were NOT Microsoft applications and OS'es. However I own my own very small business and realized many years ago when I worked for a corporation with over 1/2 million employees that Microsoft operating systems and applications would most likely be the predominant software platforms regardless of the technological genuis of OS/2, BeBox, Linux, and Taligent to name a few.So I decided to try to positively accept the changes that Microsoft has made along the way and to leverage any "goodness" that they provided. Office 2003 was a pretty decent upgrade overall, job well done. Windows 2000 and XP; tremendous improvements over NT and Windows 95/98.Then along came Office 2007 and "The Ribbon" which typically meant 2 or 3 steps instead of one to implement a function or feature after spending many frustrating moments trying to locate the feature. Vista looked pretty, but at what cost? Laden with resource intensive, inefficient, bug ridden code, it just further reduced productivity.I'm very much excited about change when it comes to computer software and hardware, especially when it is a change that provides EXTREMELY intuitive access to features and functions and provides flexibility for end users to really tailor their operating environment.Consider the analog for the computer desktop: your own personal desktop. Some can work at an optimal pace in a disorganized, messy cubical filled with tattered folders and trade publications while other don't appear to be doing any work at all because the only items on their desktop are a single pen and notepad next to their computer.Office 2007 and Windows 7 has changed all of this for the worse. I wish I was "sloppy" lazy worker that could afford to leisurely look in excel to figure out that the forumula bar does not automtically re-size according to the size of the content and that the lower boundardy of the formulal box either needs to be dragged down to see all of the content our the scroll buttons must be used to moved up and down in the formula box.I wish that I could have a few hundred icons randomly scattered across my desktop instead of neatly organized into a left margin autohide toolbar for my data folders and a top margin autohide tool bar for all of my frequently used applications. And I wish that I wasn't in such a hurry to locate a program in the start menu by just clicking on "Programs" and see the entire list, in alphabetical order of all of my installed applications.Believe me, I was the "evangelist" in the office that helped everyone else get over the "changes" and taught them how to leverage the changes into being more productive. However Windows & and Office 2007 leave me a the user that needs to be evangelized. I've looked many posts in many forums and have seen a lot of senseless bickering, but to me it comes down to this: it would probably be most productive if we all could positively express to Microsoft that the changes that they've made are NOT intuitive to the novice or expert and are creating productivity hardships in the business realm. I suppose if I were in college like my children with a boring afternoon here and there it would much matter. Windows 7 seems to have some "cool" stuff. It's not very cool when you've got a legacy Excel workbook with 15 interdependent sheets with 50,000 active cells and you have about 4 hours to produce meaningful information from that spreadsheet. One would think that Office 2007 would have made it all easier; instead the spreadsheet and prcess become unmanageable and million dollar clients are lost because the financial reporting data cannot be faithfully produced.Please, if you want to replay to this post, I respectfully ask that you plant useful suggestions instead of rants against my experience or the difficulties and challenges that Microsoft has once again, selfishlessly and onerously placed on it's leading source of revenue; it's customers. I would like especially to hear from those that have had succss with having an effective dialog with Microsoft that has brought about positive and meaningful changes. I would much prefer to rally around the possibilitly of effecting change through effective communication instead of non-productivie commiseration. Personally, I am just as angry and frustrated as the rest of you who are reading this post and nodding your head. I've learned that anger isn't especially effective in these scenarios and that's why I hope that at least one of you other there have the knowledge, experience, and social networking in place that will allow our voices to be heard. I happen to be a computer "whiz" that owns a very small construction company and this is NOT an especially effective use of my time.Thank youj,Tim

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February 15th, 2010 6:40am

February 15th, 2010 12:19pm

February 15th, 2010 5:14pm

Hi Tim,Like you, I have 30+ years of experience. Like you, when I first encountered Windows 7 I felt that a lot of useful features had been hobbled or eliminated.Then I spent most of a year with the betas, in virtual machines. I had to - I develop PC software and had to be sure it would work on Windows 7. I got to know it, and discovered a lot of tweaks that make it more useful.Even as of the release of the new OS in October, I was quite convinced Windows 7 wasn't ready for prime time, and so I kept my main development workstation (that I sit in front of all day and well into the night) on Vista x64.On January 1 I decided to move up to Windows 7 Ultimate for my main system (I actually bought a new workstation and put Windows 7 on it so I wouldn't be without a working system during the transition and setup).Now that I've lived and worked with Windows 7 every day, all day, for 6 weeks (and with my background with it before that on virtual machines) I can honestly say this: It is quite possible to have a solid, working, productive desktop environment based on Windows 7. If anything, my productivity has gone up a bit. Now when I log into my Vista x64 system (which has become a file server) I simply find that it actually feels antiquated. Sure, I tweaked some things, installed some freeware things to help this release do stuff it ought to have done out of the box, organized my Start menu, changed a few of my habits, etc. but speaking as a bird of a feather, I'd say it is something that you can manage. When you do, it turns out to be pretty good. Honest!We all have resistance to change, and there are many things that simply SHOULDN'T have been changed, but in the end change helps keep the mind nimble.In short, try it (for a while), you'll like it!-NoelBy the way, I have not yet upgraded from Office 2003. All things in time. :)

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February 15th, 2010 6:49pm

FYI, to address some specifics:1. Explorer in Windows 7 has some significant shortcomings. I suspect Microsoft is working some significant fixes. Until then (SP1?) the excellent freeware program ShellFolderFix can help immensely with remembering window positioning, and a number of tweaks for Vista (e.g., the one that makes every folder a General Items folder) work and are extremely helpful.2. There are tweaks listed on this forum that tell you how to get your Explorer contents to behave better (e.g., the ones that eliminate Libraries and Favorites from within Explorer windows).3. You can organize your own Start Menu. I've added a shortcut to the folders from which the system and user menus are derived, so organizing (e.g., after an install of something) is a matter of clicking Start -> All Programs -> Alter Start Menu (System) for me, then dragging things around in an Explorer window.4. When I was first exposed to Windows 7, people said, bah, don't worry about the missing Start menu, just type the name of what you want into the Start Menu Search box. I didn't like this idea, as I am an organized, positional thinker. However, for things you rarely use, it's often VERY handy. One special benefit is that you can easily tell someone how to start something, no matter how they've reorganized their own system. For example, "Click Start, type UAC in the search box, click User Access Control, and configure...."5. You can unpin the stuff from the Taskbar and set it to work about like the Taskbars of the past did... But you do have the nice Live Previews (in both the Taskbar and Alt-Tab) which really do help identify what you're trying to get to. And you can turn off annoying things like Aero Peek and Aero Snap. There's still a lot of configurability in the user interface, even though some of it has been reduced.6. I don't keep hundreds of icons on my desktop, but I do like to keep the apps I use most across the bottom and have the Taskbar on top, as do many folks who started out on Windows 3 and earlier. All that still works just fine.7. Though I have a somewhat more powerful computer to run it than I had for Vista, Windows 7 just seems more responsive to me - and I had my Vista system tuned nicely.Please list anything else specific about Windows 7 that's got your goat. I'm sure there are suggestions for how to make it less of a pain, or actually turn it into an advantage.-Noel

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February 15th, 2010 7:12pm

I am an IT Pro. I forced myself to use Windows 7 for the last 4 months. There are many things I like about it. Unfortunately, at the end of the 4 months, I have re-formatted and gone back to Windows XP. Why? The Windows 7 UI for the Start Menu, Windows Explorer and Search are extremely inefficient compared to the "Classic" UI from Vista and XP. You can't argue with math, and there are more mouse clicks, (or keystrokes, if you are not a mouse person)involved with the new UI, than with the Classic UI. I't a fact, Jack! Pros don't deal with "Libraries", they deal with drives, directories and files. I see the logic in hiding these things from some users (to some degree...I still think they would be better of knowing the drives, directories and files behind the curtain of "Libraries"). Power Users and Administrators NEED to have access to the Classic UI for Start Menu, Windows Explorer and Search. It is insane to me to have Microsoft tell the millions of us who have expressed this opinion, from alpha to beta to RC, that "sorry, we're not going to do it". When Microsoft says "No", there is only one reason for it.....profit. In some way, Microsoft sees more profit in forcing everyone to move to the pretty, but extremely inefficient new UI. C'mon, Microsoft! Give us the choice of which UI to use. At least, make the UI fully customizable, so you can arrange the Start Menu and Windows Explorer as you please. Why are you being so stubborn about this???? It's not logical. It's great that many folks like the new UI. A ____ of a lot of us don't.

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February 15th, 2010 9:13pm

I sense that if I disagree with you, it would be considered a rant. I find the changes to Office 2007 and included in Office 2010 are useful do not hamper my productivity.I do not think Windows 7 and Office 2007/2010 are worse than their predecessors.There are things that were removed from or changed in Windows 7 that I would have prefered to have remained unchanged however.Of course this is just my opinion.
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February 15th, 2010 9:48pm

February 16th, 2010 12:12am

I'm sorry although I would love to get something for free or even a discount, I was told in the beginning that I was testing the beta & RC with no promise of any reward and I excepted that because I wanted to test the new software. Why did you test it and use your personal time?
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February 16th, 2010 3:52am

Windows 7 seems to have some "cool" stuff. It's not very cool when you've got a legacy Excel workbook with 15 interdependent sheets with 50,000 active cells and you have about 4 hours to produce meaningful information from that spreadsheet. One would think that Office 2007 would have made it all easier; instead the spreadsheet and prcess become unmanageable and million dollar clients are lost because the financial reporting data cannot be faithfully produced. Thank youj, Tim
that´s a real mess

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February 16th, 2010 7:55am

I agree with your first two points but have not experienced the third. I kept an open mind during beta and release candidate but ultimately gave up on Win 7 and retired it. I keep a copy so I can answer questions but don't use it myself. Microsoft seemingly paid no attention to feedback during the beta and release candidates and appears to have no interest in providing a functional user interface any more. Vista was awful in performance on average and below hardware as well as user interface. Win 7 performs fine but the user interface is a flavor of worse. Looks like it will be XP forever or Switch to Mac or Linux. Several Linux user interfaces beat Win 7 for function and ease of use but not as good as XP. For now I use XP and Linux mostly because they are much less frustrating than Win 7 user interface. I can't rule out Mac OS though I don't like the Mac world in general. Where we don't but heads Macs are nice. Microsoft does not need to mess up the user interface as a reason to get people to upgrade. Most people are stuck with whatever comes on their comptuer so Microsoft gets the business any way.

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February 17th, 2010 2:54am

Seriously windows 7??? I am someone who never saw the point in upgrading from windows xp, i even considered downgrading to windows 98 or me a few times. I have windows 7 ultimate edition, isnt that the edition where they expect you not to be a moron?? im am sick of being double asked to do anything, all you vista users just got used to it so your not complaining, but remember the good old days of a basic os? easy to use? does what u want it to and not what its developers want it to? Also where have all my options/file tabs gone?? i know you can turn them on if you find the right check box hidden away in an obscure location, but seriously, the default should be customization. AND NO, i dont want to use crappy windows media centre to veiw my files, i have vlc to play videos, winamp to play audio and file/fax veiwer for photos, running at the same time work better than media center. I know microsoft want to be an all in one, one stop os, but seriously take a hint out source, or pay these user favorite brands to use their ____, its better than yours. That rant burned me out.. i cant wait to get rid of windows 7 Im downgrading to windows xp again, seriously windows 7 only offers you a good hardware driver support, that is all, and any 'non-noob' can find the right drivers themselves. The not so, SilentOmen

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February 17th, 2010 12:36pm

But software developers are not going to write new software for windows XP..... !also hardware manufacturer are not going to build hardware for Windows XP....... !Hope you find the info useful

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February 17th, 2010 1:16pm

Justohelp, with people like this, there's no need to reply to them. They know the writing is on the wall - eventually. If they can't even bother to read or search on how to turn off UAC, which is all over the place, and alluding to the drivers, he/she already knows where the answer is, they just choose to bellyache about nothing. They are the ones who are constantly infected but there are tons of apps out there for businesses that are dragging their feet in making applications that doesn't require admin access to run (still believing in Windows 98 when everyone was an admin). They just want to rant, they aren't asking for help, so spend your time assisting those that really want help, it'll be far more beneficial to you and to those that want the assistance (but beware of those that are CONSTANTLY asking for help - you'll learn who they are by looking at their profiles - the ones with 150+ questions very few answers to their credit and they got them by answering the questions themselves which wasn't correct anyways) ;)MCSE, MCSA, MCDST
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February 17th, 2010 1:50pm

Windows 7 is a huge enhancement over Windows Vista & Windows XP, and it is well worth the upgrade from Vista. The new and improved features make your system fast and you will spend less time searching for items that you have misplaced.
Windows 7 offers the advantages of Media Center and its ability to share pictures, movies, TV shows and videos on systems and TVs throughout the house.
Windows 7 is a worth the upgrade from Windows Vista or XP as it contains several new and enhanced features that make it more skilled to find things and do things more easily. With the Star Menu Search box, you can find things easily. You can keep track of all your open windows with the new taskbar and it is more easier than ever to go directly to the window that you were looking for. You can also use the Jump Lists extensively.

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February 25th, 2010 9:31am

Hi I am it pro user, and I have been trained as xp pro user to OCR standards. I have used the folowing platform bases: XP home, XP pro, Vista ,lynux pro and Windows 7 pro 32 bit. Out of all these platforms Windows 7 pro 32 bit is the most stable and easy to use. As with all new products there are a few snagging list items to be sorted out. Don't warry these are tiny compared to vista factory installed and vista home install via cd rom. I have now a windows 7 pro 32 bit platformed computer. Since I have had it a few months ago I have only had a few problems. These have incuded compatabitlity issuses with my existing softwares and the odd device or two. to day I loaded works 9 from a cd rom. This was brilliant except for one programme auto route esentials. Just to test it out I used route planner From My address in Sidmouth, Devon to a road name in Exeter ware my friend lives. I followed the normal procedure yet was offered up places in the wrong town, city, county,and country but not the address I wanted! So I tried the same excersize to make absalutely cirtain it was not me,it was not! The same results came up. I think this is due to the fact that Microsoft is an American owned and controled company. In America they have so many streets, towns ect. that ther is an inbuilt user error dactor,

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February 28th, 2010 7:46pm

March 3rd, 2010 11:01pm

I read lots and lots of posts about how many problems people are having, I just want to say that I've got Win7 on 3 machines: an HP laptop, an htpc, and a gaming rig, and it has worked flawlessly on all platforms. Couldn't be happier with the product, WMC, performance, anything at all. Just wanted to throw that out there, I know there aren't a lot of kudos thrown Microsoft's way. This OS is darn near perfect as far as I'm concerned, though. Excellent job on getting it right.
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March 3rd, 2010 11:38pm

Nice to hear a positive report.I too find Windows 7 very useful, and above all VERY STABLE. I have been running my Ultimate x64 system hard for DAYS (between reboots due to Microsoft Updates) doing development and testing without any sign of system degradation or instability. XP was never this stable, Vista wasn't quite this stable, and now Windows 7 seems to have finally achieved the ability to run virtually forever. Bravo!-Noel

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March 4th, 2010 2:26am

March 4th, 2010 3:33am

A share from Windows 7 is not visible to an XP client
You say this like it's a given... I can certainly see Windows 7 shares from XP.

-Noel

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March 4th, 2010 4:18am

Windows 7 runs fine on my machine. I was not surprised at the sales I saw today. Windows 7 has been a very successful launch. I find it very stable and able to recover better than previous offerings.While some are still holding onto XP, I know that some corporate networking shares are not working properly so some IT people are not happy. I use Linux servers and they all work fine.Some shops with older Windows servers are finding some problems, but not major ones.A share from Windows 7 is not visible to an XP client, so this is one problem that is a nuisance, as its expensive to buy 10,000 new machines for everyone at once.

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March 4th, 2010 8:36am

A share from Windows 7 is not visible to an XP client
You say this like it's a given... I can certainly see Windows 7 shares from XP. -Noel
I have had problems with XP clients myself. For me its not a problem, as I use Linux to provide shares that are more helpful. I did some testing and that is how I found out. I have not tested it for a long time as I have been busy with other problems developing a program. Vote if answered or helpful, I am running for Office (joke)!
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March 5th, 2010 12:01am

Well, as this is not a Windows talibans versus Antiwindows talibans (except for some people with too many free time) I must say, as I said a lot of times, that Windows 7 is the best Windows ever (for me) but (BUT) the Windows Explorer sucks, the Search 4 sucks and the connection with XP sucks.I assume (I want to believe this) Microsft don't create this forum to hear sweet words only. If we don't tell what we believe it's wrong, it never will be better.Sadly, the points abot Windows Explorer and Search were posted a lot and MS ignored it. Maybe if we continue pointing it, Windows 8 will be better. Or maybe we got lucky and the SP1 will do it....
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March 5th, 2010 8:51pm

I do not use IE8 as I find Firefox more to my likings. This is a personal choice, but IE8 is not that bad but FF is beter for tabs than IE8 when I have 5-8 of them open.Windows 7 has been excellent on my machine, and I have found it to be stable, and so far it has lasted far longer than XP before I had to format C: and start over.

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March 5th, 2010 8:54pm

March 6th, 2010 1:01am

I recall some concern over the update that deals with piracy hacks got some legit uses finding their machine flagged as counterfeit, but I think that is due to the software stack or an error in the windows folder.On my box the update did nothing as my software is nominally all corporate save for a few favored classic games I still play.Windows 7 is good for me, and seems to be selling really well, and I think Balmer's estimate of 300 million by year's end is not outlandish.The next cycle of new machines should be good enough with Windows 7 as long as corporate parts are used like I buy.

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March 6th, 2010 2:11am

March 6th, 2010 1:31pm

I am legal so I am not concerned. I agree that unlicensed users are a nuisance. Canada and the US are not so bad, but China is a real nation of pirates.

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March 6th, 2010 3:55pm

I agree, but at my local store Windows 7 is under $100 for a legal version. I have the full retail ultimate so its more expensive but given the upgrades I do around here, its necessary. No problem, and I have found Window 7 to very productive. Even on a basic dual core CPU its much faster than Vista and is about on par with XP which is much leaner. For me, performance is desirable as sluggishness is not very productive. I recall my original PC running DOS was OK butt the faster AT was much better. I have used every version of Windows from the get go. Windows 7 is a huge stack of software for the money. Its got so many abilities right out of the box to be very useful and for free you can have a good email tool and email suite. Most recently even free security software. So given my estimated retail price of C$350 for Windows 7 ultimate, I have already have a spectacular amount of software. For another $50 I bought the home and student Office 2007 and now I have a powerful word processor and spreadsheet, the rest of office I have little use for. So I am happy the Microsoft has listened to me and made a cheap version of office as the lower the price, the less piracy. I have the top version of Windows, it may be excessive but at least I am not feature poor. I have all the bells and whistles. I have a mountain of other software I have accumulated, like world+dog and 99% of it works fine. My own programs work fine as I was conservative and I use updated development tools to be sure I am free of headaches. Since I am not hardware locked, this year I am reviewing options for upgrading the tower. There are so many choices its complicated to select a motherboard for example that has the level of hardiness of my current one. My goal is for a board to last 10+ years. Not that I plan to use it that long, I am simply that conservative.

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March 6th, 2010 4:17pm

I hate Firefox. I found it is no more than marketing. I use Opera. When I said Windows Eplorer sucks I mean WINDOWS Explorer, not Internet Explorer.Anyway, Search 4.0 is really a very bad idea.

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March 6th, 2010 6:16pm

March 6th, 2010 6:18pm

This is why there are several difference browsers out there, each one has its adherents. Choice is good.

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March 7th, 2010 10:33pm

March 7th, 2010 10:39pm

I do not qualify, i already have office 2007 installed long ago.

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March 7th, 2010 10:41pm

Why did you take away the ability to preview GIF images now to view them i have to use a browser as not even live photo supports them properly, in win xp i used to be able to run one as an desktop background can't now they don't work if animated
and why are themes still a locked down pile of junk i have some really nice win7 themes but unless i run a crack to allow unsigned themes i can't use them UNLOCK THEMING in win 7

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March 11th, 2010 12:57pm

March 13th, 2010 8:42pm

Only a thinking: there are thousands of users of Windows 7 who haven't your problems (me, as an example)Don't you think the problem could be YOY or YOUR PC?Only a thinking.

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March 14th, 2010 3:10pm

I have had no problems, Windows 7 is very good. I had to uise an arcange trick to get Quake II to install but otherwise nothing major. Windows last longer between reboots which I like. Reboots ar faster as well which I also like. Vote if answered or helpful, I am running for Office (joke)!
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March 14th, 2010 3:26pm

March 14th, 2010 5:21pm

As far as I can see, Win 7 is the worst OS yet. Can't get anyone to explain WHY my HDD goes spastic and everything locks-up for no apparent reason. I gues I should feel grateful this garbage only wasted $100 of my money, but I think this will be the LAST MS product I will ever buy. I asked a question here FOUR MONTHS AGO about a process. It remains unanswered to this day. I won't go Mac. Been there, done that. No, I think I'll go Linux. Maybe a dual-boot with XP Pro. At least THAT works. The saddest part is I spent almost $1200 to build a new PC with a Core2Quad CPU so I could have a platform to run 7 on.I may try one more reinstall on a third HDD. I'll use the 32-bit version of 7, instead of the 64-bit version. I'm not waiting until 2012 for SP1 to fix the problems that MS won't even admit exist.
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March 14th, 2010 7:53pm

Only a thinking: there are thousands of users of Windows 7 who haven't your problems (me, as an example)Don't you think the problem could be YOY or YOUR PC?Only a thinking.
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March 14th, 2010 7:53pm

I believe I said this, but, just in case.... I hope Windows 8 (I lost my hope with this in W7) allow the users to CANCEL ANYTHING!!!!!!!Pinting cancellation is impossible since Windows 3.0 (I don't remember, but I believe it was impossible on W 286 and W 386 too). Explorer processes are almost impossible to cancel, i.e: compress the folder, but inside it is an .iso file, so you decide to cancel.... you can go to dinner and return, and go to sleep or you can kill yourself.....You want to move a huge file but for some reason decide to cancel the operation.... you better buy another computer since you wait for the cancellation....I said this a lot of times, but I can´t understand why Windows Explorer is so slow and processor intensive in W7 (I never use Vista), and so "dictator", while WE is doing a long process you almost can't do anything.All of this refer to a W7 32 bits with an Intel 32 bits processor and 2 Gb RAM.

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March 16th, 2010 5:15pm

I think your hope is in vain. They´d to rewrite too much, but they want to earn money with w8 in 2012 or 2013. (And i am not sure whether they are qualified enough to solve "hundreds of years" old problems if w8 launch were dated 2015). They prefer to change emperor´s clothing, perhaps that is easier.

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March 17th, 2010 5:07pm

As far as I can see, Win 7 is the worst OS yet.
You do realize that building a computer yourself implies you're able and willing to take on the task of system integration, right? Like all software, Windows 7 has some issues, but virtually all of them can be worked around. ESPECIALLY as a system builder, you need to accept responsibility for learning how to configure it and use it adeptly. -Noel
Windows 7 has a serious problem integrating SATA and IDE drives when combined on the same computer, especially when the C: drive is SATA. I made a FIFTH reinstall, this time to an IDE drive (Seagate 750GB) and, so far (since 12PM Saturday), I have no instabilities with the HDD. Now, I can't get Windowblinds to work.

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March 23rd, 2010 5:49pm

As far as I can see, Win 7 is the worst OS yet. Can't get anyone to explain WHY my HDD goes spastic and everything locks-up for no apparent reason. I gues I should feel grateful this garbage only wasted $100 of my money, but I think this will be the LAST MS product I will ever buy. I asked a question here FOUR MONTHS AGO about a process. It remains unanswered to this day. I won't go Mac. Been there, done that. No, I think I'll go Linux. Maybe a dual-boot with XP Pro. At least THAT works. The saddest part is I spent almost $1200 to build a new PC with a Core2Quad CPU so I could have a platform to run 7 on. I may try one more reinstall on a third HDD. I'll use the 32-bit version of 7, instead of the 64-bit version. I'm not waiting until 2012 for SP1 to fix the problems that MS won't even admit exist.
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March 23rd, 2010 5:53pm

Now, I can't get Windowblinds to work

You claim a lot of experience, but that product is baloney. I've worked on several systems where it just flat broke the user interface.
-Noel

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March 24th, 2010 12:17am

Please allow me to turn OFF Auto Arrange files in folder view:

It is very annoying when I have to rename many files, specially when they are initially side by side and then I get thrown off to one end of the folder because of the Auto Arrange that takes place immediately.
Make Auto Arrange to be auto only if I choose it to auto arrange I know there is library mode to do all this, but I just don't have enough time to try out new things to do something that I could have done easily with Windows XP.

(Ok, I don't know how to get #2 to appear as the numbering here). Anyhow, for Win 7 installation, allow Win XP users to upgrade to Win 7 directly without having to clean install. This will "encourage" businesses who are still on XP and have many valuable software (and have probably lost the installation CDs along with the CD keys) to consider upgrading to 7. This will boost Windows 7 popularity and over time, Windows XP will go extinct because of choice.

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March 24th, 2010 5:10am

I've had no trouble with WindowBlinds on XP or 2000.

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March 24th, 2010 11:51am

@ dragilores
have a look at

http://www.sevenforums.com/customization/65397-auto-arrange-solved.html

http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/disable-full-row-select-explorer-windows-7/

why only clean install from xp :

http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/russinovich.asp

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March 24th, 2010 12:06pm

What has been most annoying since Vista is AUTO SORT or AUTO REFRESH which is at work in list view, details view and god figure out how many other views. Whereas AUTO ARRANGE is on and can't be turned off by default only in Windows 7 (In Vista we could turn off Auto Arrange). Turning off Auto Arrange allows users to drag and place files the way they want. But Auto sort/auto refresh remains which is the single most annoying feature keeping me on XP. I extract 10 files in list view or details view (which is what I use) and they get scattered all over. I start to rename few files sequentially but they jump all over as I type the names. I paste some new files and they get scattered too. I try to create a new folder and it hurriedly puts it between any folders named M and O (because of New folder) and then jumps again the moment I hit enter after typing the name. How annoyingly rude. MICROSOFT WHY DO I NEED TO YELL TO FIX SOMETHING AS ANNOYING AS THIS AND AFFECTING DOZENS AND DOZENS OF PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET. WE NEED A HOTFIX FOR EXPLORER THAT FIXES THIS FOR VISTA AND WINDOWS 7. IF WINDOWS 7 SP1 DOES NOT INCLUDE THIS FIX, CONSIDER ME STAYING ON XP FOR ANOTHER GENERATION TILL WINDOWS 8 FIXES THIS. IF STILL NOT THEN AFTER 2014 WHEN XP GOES OUT OF SUPPORT I WILL CONSIDER SWITCHING TO A PLATFORM THAT GIVES ME COMPLETE CUSTOMIZABILITY.
P.S. I'm the "anon" on the Winhelponline blog who discovered that auto arrange can be turned off but alas it helped a few but not all. AUTO SORT / AUTO REFRESH NEEDS TURNING OFF. DO YOU HEAR THAT MICROSOFT?

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March 24th, 2010 3:07pm

Build a new computer this weekend. Guess what - still the same problem in other computers I had - speed of file transfer between 2 HDD stinks.Testing to copy a 4 Gb file - it starts with 55 Mb/s and in few secons it goes to 28Mb/s wich remains stable. In XP it starts with 80Mb/s and became stable at 72 Mb/s - almost 3 TIMES FASTER.What the h e l l ? The older computer I've said it was to old, but this is an Intel Core 2 Quad running at 3 GHz !!! Everything in it is new and relatively in the top, not midrange or lower.
Cristi -
You might want to check your drivers. I just tried moving a 4.3 GB file back and forth - the source is a Western Digital PATA drive and the destination is a 1 TB Western Digital SATA. It averages about 74 MB/s. The system itself is 4 years old now though the 1 TB drive is a new addition.

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March 28th, 2010 6:56am

There are some rumors about Windows 8, and all those new things in it, blah blah blah. Could Microsoft instead of Paint add maybe Paint.NET (MS could buy that project, if he didn't it yet, btw.) or improve MS Paint significantly? Yeah i can download GIMP or other stuff, but why not give users good quality graphics software out of the box? Imo classic Paint sucks (even this new-classic with MS Ribbon from Office 2007).

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March 31st, 2010 7:47pm

Thanks. I will check it out and post about what comes up

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April 7th, 2010 1:12am

Hey karlx,
I don't know how many people debated about this, but regarding clean install from xp:
-Quite a chunk of people who bought Vista prior to Windows 7 release probably reverted back to XP, especially for business, given that Vista took up too much resources on running and had many incompatibilities. I don't know if it's stand true prior to Win 7 release, nevertheless, I experienced that.
-As a result, I reverted back to XP and my machine is Vista capable. And I think if it's Vista capable, it must be 7 capable. My small business who recently bought 3 computers, which is not a lot, but still nevertheless, had Windows 7 with them and reverted them back to XP. Those had dual-core processors with at least 3GB of RAM and large HDD.
From a statistics standpoint, I have a very small sample. Therefore, I hope that Russinovich did some market research about the size of the XP users.
So to summarize:
- A lot of machines are 7 capable, if it's not, the thing that won't work is mostly Aero. I checked this with my 5 year old laptop
- Companies may lose their install discs to upgrade their softwares and they will not be able to reinstall the software they had after that
- Companies don't want to spend time reinstalling softwares. These take time and reconfiguring the softwares again is difficult. I lost several days trying to get reformatted computers working

But again, I don't know. I might be missing things. I would like to read up more about this if you have more info. I am tied up with school right now. And I really do hope that MS did their market research.

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April 7th, 2010 1:27am

A brief comment to Microsoft:
As I complete my 3rd full month of using Windows 7 Ultimate x64 hard for software development and business management work all day every day, leaving this workstation on 24/7, getting great performance and NEVER having had a crash (the ONLY reboots have been for installs/Windows Updates), I'd just like to say:
Thank you for the most stable version of Windows ever!
As of last night: The system uptime is 2259186 seconds.
-Noel

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April 7th, 2010 1:31am

Actually, despite my ranting, you have put me in another perspective Noel.
Windows is getting better and better. More stable, more secure, and things like that.
Hm... If they can just fix the bug... People will have less complaints. Hopefully.

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April 7th, 2010 3:22am

Hm... If they can just fix the bug... People will have less complaints. Hopefully.

bug sssssss
@ Noel
Thank you for the most stable version of Windows ever!
what is this? It´s ms´s job to make vista sp3 stable !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They want a lot of money for vista + some gimmicks + sbar!!

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April 8th, 2010 10:55am

I'm glad you used more exclamation points, karlx. Those helped really clarify your otherwise completely cryptic comment.
Please, by all means go ahead and create your own operating system, then, if you feel a few hundred bucks is a lot of money for Windows. And let's see... You'll need to get it done in about 2 or 3 man-hours at most, or it will cost you more than that few hundred bucks in time. And don't forget to get it done absolutely perfectly, and oh, it has to be un-crashable by any 3rd party software.
There are people who just complain and there are people who make the best of what's available. Looks like we have both approches nicely covered between us.
-Noel

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April 8th, 2010 12:56pm

cryptic? A few hundred bucks for an update with some gimmicks is a lot of money, indeed. NO REASON to say thank you to ms, the minimum what
they have to give for the money is a stable os!
Most of the people who complain have good reason to do so!

And the rest of your effusion above needs no comment but: ms with it´s thousands of "programmers" should have learnt within 25 years
how to design and program a "stable" os and a good filemanager including it´s connection to the core

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April 8th, 2010 1:03pm

Yeah, cryptic. You're trying to equate Windows 7 somehow with Vista SP3? Your techie sarcasm, if that's what you meant, was all but lost in translation.
I personally have been more productive lately with Windows 7 than with any prior OS, and that goes back to the mid 1970s. NO downtime, no lost data, products completed on time and on budget. So yes, THANK YOU, MICROSOFT.
Keep in mind that different people in Microsoft botched up the UI of Explorer than those who were making most of the core OS better. Life's too complex to be considered in black and white. Did I say "thank you for a perfect system"? Not hardly.
Your computer, right now, may well be one of the most complex things on the planet. 25 years ago early versions of Windows, on computers that only executed hundreds of thousands of instructions per second, might last just a few hours before crashing or needing reboot. Now we have a system here that runs virtually forever on multiprocessor systems that execute tens of billions of instructions per second and that store more data than could be kept in all the computers in the world when those early machines were being rebooted at least daily.
Hey, Microsoft is one of the richest companies in the world, and I think that says more about the value of their software than any comments by someone who doesn't even use their real name. Pardon me if I side with the winner here.
-Noel

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April 8th, 2010 1:26pm

I have a Windows 7 feature request. I think it would be great to be able to view the printing history from within Windows. (E.g. Open the specific printer and view the 'documents recently printed'.)

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April 9th, 2010 4:09am

I think it is a good idea.

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April 9th, 2010 3:09pm

My biggest gripe so far is lack of classic explorer and startmenu. (Take note of xplorer2 )
So far all of the best Windows have had the Pro suffix.
Make Win7 Pro by adding lost functionality and an option to skip novice features at time of install.

Change is good as long as it makes sense.

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April 10th, 2010 4:12pm

Start is now a graphic. I use the taskbar as I like the way it works with Windows 7, its very good and quickly gets the programs I use the most up and running.
It definitely is more productive than the XP way.
Vista can do it, but Windows 7 does it better. It has the live mini-image of the activity etc.
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April 10th, 2010 4:15pm

Well, I really don't use it. I mantain my bar as clean as as possible. I use the free Stardock Object Dock, a selector Mac-like.

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April 11th, 2010 6:42pm

I have 2048x1536 so I have room galore for my most used programs, plus any less often used programs.
I can also make the taskbar 2x high if I had a lower resolution screen, at the expense of the space for the application.
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April 11th, 2010 6:46pm

combine Win7 and classic startmenu:
in [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders]
change the string in Favorites to %PROGRAMDATA%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
in the property window of startmenu check > Menu "Favorites"
Then logoff/on.
PS: to get all programs you should copy your programs in C:\Users\your-user-name\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
to the %PROGRAMDATA%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder.
You get only ONE column when you choose Programs on the right in the customized menu,
no matter how many items. You have the up/down arrows on the top/bottom. But I think that is passable. (And see what happens when
you shift+click)

BUT: in Internet Explorer you have a problem, no favorites but the programs.
In FF no problem of course.

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April 12th, 2010 4:22pm

I'm trying to publish for the fist time with windows 7 and using dreamweaver and expressions web. I coudn't get the local machine to communicate with the server.

So I checked around. There were several posts about this issue, none of which offered anything conclusive. For best results when collocating you local machine with the remote serve I found when doing the following that it worked.

My first attemps kept looping the file back to my local machine, and a pop up would come up asking for the remote user name and password but after trying to publish it would still show a local directory like C:/
www.nathanmadsen.com/mysite.htm

My useranme before for example was:

username

password

after the windows upgrade it became:

username@username

when I typed it in the password, it collocated my local machine and problem solved. I don't know if this is pertenant information or not but I thought I would share it with everyone.

Thanks,

Nathan Madsen
emrmedia@q.com

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April 21st, 2010 2:56pm

user@machine means user local host, is a system identificaion when networks are in use.
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April 21st, 2010 3:06pm

"Collocating"? "Collocated"? Natetechpro, you need to use the right words. I think you mean "connecting" and "connected".
-Noel

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April 21st, 2010 4:12pm

I set my desktop to "Sort by Type" then I enabled "Auto Arrange" I then disabled "Auto Arrange", why is FIREFOX downloads still adhering to auto arrange by type? I can manually move stuff around on the desktop fine and dandy
but each time I log in/boot up it will also rearrange any manually moved items to fit the arrange by type setting.

Another words, how the ____ do you get Auto Arrange to ____ off?

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April 27th, 2010 6:38am

My first conclusio is: don't use the marketing-powered godzilla fire-fox. I prefer IE right now, despite the bad opinions and even the bad previous experiences with IE, I found IE8 a very better navigator than the previos versions and better than many
others. Anyway, my first navigator is Opera :D.
I really don't know why firefox is so loved. I think there is a little snobism (is "good" to blame Microsoft)

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April 27th, 2010 6:13pm

Uf! Every time I see something about computers I see security - security - security -security - paranoia!!!!!
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." - Benjamin Franklin

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April 28th, 2010 2:27pm

Uf! Every time I see something about computers I see security - security - security -security - paranoia!!!!!
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." - Benjamin Franklin

Speaking of paranoia and great libertarian godfathers... Do you suppose we are being manipulated to
willingly install these controls?

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April 28th, 2010 9:25pm

Uf! Every time I see something about computers I see security - security - security -security - paranoia!!!!!
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." - Benjamin Franklin

Speaking of paranoia and great libertarian godfathers... Do you suppose we are being manipulated to
willingly install these controls?

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April 28th, 2010 9:25pm

Well as you can see (my english is too poor) I've not born in the USA. I'm argentinian, but I try to know and recognize all of the national fathers of all of the countries. Specially the great libertarian ones.
I think there is so much "business" and so much money behind the security issues. I know there is a lot of true in this too, but I believe there is a political and commercial "well spent" by some people.
I use antivirus, of course, and have the Windows Firewall on, but I'm not obsessed with security.
Only my opinion, anyway.

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April 30th, 2010 5:40pm

i usely most Asus boards, it sounds more like hardware config issue then OS, because, i have M478PRO IN HYBRID SLI, SINCE RC LAST YEAR, HAVENT HAD MUCH ISSUE, but also the make the nvidia calibration option is enabled in bios under CPU features, that
was the problem that i had in the beginning that was not posted anywhere, let me know if this helps good luck

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May 1st, 2010 5:31am

I was using an Asus M2NBP-VM CSM with Windows 7 beta, RC adn RTM. I replaced it last week with the M4A77D which is a full ATX board. The new board is drastically faster then the old one and it makes the components I hvae all work well.
The drivers for the new M4A77D were all on Windows update so I did not need to find any drivers except for my ancient PhysX card.
I bought the board as the okd one ws too cluttered to put a longer video card on, so I moved back to full ATX. Now I have a free path to install a better video card. The usual impediment is funding.
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May 1st, 2010 1:40pm

http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicshell/files/

ClassicShell is now super customizable. Even with xp-style skin and "show recent programs" .
You can use it parallel to w7 startmenu, fe by shift+win, or shift+cklick-win.
You can also use it as default, and open w7 startmenu with shift+........
(the "show undock" option you only see, when laptop connected to docking station)

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May 3rd, 2010 12:58pm

hi i have a funny note ,, Start button are rounded i like it squared thank you

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May 5th, 2010 2:35pm

There are a lot of programs to change the graphics like this.

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May 5th, 2010 6:17pm

May 5th, 2010 7:10pm

I have some messages from this thread that seems to have disappeared. One was a propect that coule have got me some work with a server, which is frustrating.
Oh well, back to working for nothing.
I have been using Windows 7 for over 16 months now, and I have had no problems outide of the Live Essentials who's manager is aware of the problems.

Hi Vegan
Messages don't just disappear. :)
Usually when this happens, it means that a moderator moved the message(s) for a reason.
This primary purpose of this thread for feedback, but there is a lot of chat going on here and if a moderator detects a few off topic, contiguous posts that meet all of the criteria, they may split those posts and create a new thread. When posts
are 'split' we must give the split thread a new name and we try to make it intuitive for the discussion.
The 'missing' posts you are referring to are located here:
Questions about setting up Samba 3.3 Server?

In the future, if you see any of your posts missing, go to the top/right corner of any forum page and click the
My Threads link under your User Profile as soon as possible. You will likely find your posts in one of those thread.
Thanks for understanding.

Regards,
Thank You for using Windows 7

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May 5th, 2010 7:53pm

Thanks, I mentioned it to the questioner that this was not the right place, so at least I can help the OP understand what can and cannot be done with Windows 7 in a mixed server system.
I did checj on "My Threads", I tell it was NOT there so this is why I called them missing, and no alert of the move which means problems with the forum have not all been fixed yet.
I have been using Windows 7 a long time and have been able to solve many of the issues for others here, got me 4 medallions so far.
I seee Windows 7 as being a excellent product that solves the imperfections of Vista. In the real world servers are a dime a dozen and I help with Windows Sever one in a while so as to keep myself up to date.
When I see corporate users, my ears perk up.
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May 5th, 2010 8:22pm

2 features I would like to see in windows 7 are:
1. ability to search for files whose names contain "special characters" i.e. + or !
2. ability to set the number of explorer.exe instances open after which the taskbar reverts from

thumbnails to pull-up menu listing

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May 10th, 2010 3:31am

Here's my comments as a long time user.

Vista Service Pack 2 runs circles around Windows 7; I'm sorry but it does. In terms of boot speed, navigation speed, UI speed...a fresh install of Vista SP2 is nearly as fast as XP under the same conditions.
Windows 7 works great if it's an underpowered machine (i.e. a netbook, or an older computer). I've found that if your computer has high specs, for some reason Windows 7 is not nearly as great a performer as it should be. Again, a fresh Vista
SP2 will run circles around it. And a fresh XP SP3 will smash them both with less RAM required.
Sometimes in 7, the thumbnails will stop showing mysteriously and cannot be reset. No idea why this happens.
Windows 7's Aero feels intrusive compared to Vista. Not sure how else to explain it. It just doesn't look "natural" like Vista's does; Vista SP2 looks and performs like a clearcoated version of XP; the logical next step up. Windows
7 feels like someone wanted to create a lite version of Vista for netbooks. I suppose that's how they managed to drop the memory required to run Aero.
Boot Configuration is a pain compared to the good old BOOT.INI file of yore. Should have rethought the terminology for user settings. Allowing one to set themselves as an "Administrator" that really doesn't have Administrator privileges is confusing. Should have called it a Power User or something else; I've
had plenty of people ask me about this where an app claims to be running correctly yet fails, and I tell them to do the Run as administrator (which works), and they question why they have to do that still.

It might seem like I don't like Windows 7; nothing could be further from the truth. I actually think it's a solid operating system. But in a lot of ways, Vista Service Pack 2 has surpassed it except on the most old or limited of machines where XP
is no longer practical. If you have a solid machine, Windows 7 isn't all that impressive. If you have a netbook it is.

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May 12th, 2010 4:26am

My Windows box is not so underpowered but I find Windows 7 performance to be good. It runs much better since I upgraded my motherboard with a more recent model.
My system is detaiiled on my site, look for the Windows machine. The other machines are my servers.
I use Windows 7 to work by day and play games after hours.
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May 12th, 2010 4:30am

Apple Sucks!

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May 17th, 2010 7:48pm

Apple Sucks!

Well, basically I agree, but I don't see the point here.

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May 17th, 2010 9:17pm

Apple Sucks!

Well, basically I agree, but I don't see the point here.

And Kubuntu 10.04 rocks, and win 7 is anywhere between (nearer to Apple) . :)

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May 18th, 2010 1:14pm

Apple Sucks!

Well, basically I agree, but I don't see the point here.

And Kubuntu 10.04 rocks, and win 7 is anywhere between (nearer to Apple) . :)
And I don't see YOUR point here, but you are here to blame W7 since the beginning, so, I don't see your point in this forum.

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May 18th, 2010 7:05pm

Don´t you? Sorry sir. Did i overlook anything? Is one premiss of this forum "do not blame w7" ?
Ok: one little plus of w7 : taskbar is innovative with some respect (not even in kubuntu and apple ), BUT ... i told earlier.
2 examples of MY points here, - sorry :) - i blame w7 again:
Dolphin versus WE : the second winner (silver medal) is : WE
Kwin versus w7 display manager : the second winner is : you guess right.
(for example in w7 just ONE desktop,3rd party software has big problems when moving live windows with
videos to another desktop, w7 has no builtin expose , .....)

before i forget : "big hands to ie8" : now you can download files with more than 4 giga.
Irony on: how innovative ! irony off

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May 19th, 2010 7:09am

Here are important Windows 7 missing/broken features which were working in XP and some were working even in the broken Vista OS. I have tried since 2006 to bring these to the attention of various Windows feature teams through their blogs,
forums, newsgroups, Windows 7 Beta program on Connect, Windows Feedback Program, newly opened Windows 7 feedback website and even asked customer service for hotfixes but all of them have been largely ignored. How many more years, service packs and
Windows releases is it going to take to fix XP to Vista issues?

XP to Vista issues:
- Shell/Explorer issue: Auto refresh / auto sorting is mandatory making it impossibly difficult to work with many files, especially when they are extracted from archives.
- Shell/Explorer issue: Can't view size of folders in columns. Previously at least a shell extension called "Folder size" allow that but MS took away the core ability to be able to do that so the shell extension doesn't work any more
- Shell/Explorer issue: Can't view the icons of 16-bit programs in 32-bit Windows 7 (I know 16-bit is stone age but if they can run, why not show the icons of those EXEs as well?). I can understand 64-bit Windows not showing icons for 16-bit EXEs but 32-bit
Windows 7 should.
- Shell/Explorer issue: No advanced file type association settings like Windows XP
- Shell/Explorer issue: Access to network connection settings (IP address, DNS) status, details, repair, enable/disable is too many clicks away. Of course I can create a shortcut but if I have 2 wireless connections and 2 ethernet, I don't want to create 4
shortcuts. Earlier XP allowed quick access to these settings depending on which connection was active.
- Logon issue: I have set my system to auto logon but there are times when I want to log on to a different account, but there's no way in Windows 7 to stop the auto logon from happening. Previously in XP, holding down Shift prevented auto logon so you could
switch to another user account. Or maybe Windows should have some timer at logon (like it has at startup) to wait for x number of seconds after which it should auto logon
- Audio issue: I can't hear audio simultaneously from my headphones and from my speakers, or output to another set of speakers installed in the other room the same audio as I am listening to in my computer room
- Audio issue: I am a big fan of MIDI songs and MIDI music in games so I want to be able to select a better sounding MIDI synthesizer than the ordinary sounding one that Windows 7 comes with by default but I can no longer do that. XP allowed that.
- Servicing issue: Updates cannot be installed with the progess bar shown but unattended. It's either manual or completely silent without any indication that the MSU update completed or failed.
- Servicing issue: Can't quickly and easily slipstream hotfixes like XP could using the /integrate switch
- Shell/Explorer issue: WinSxS takes up too much disk space and Explorer doesn't let me view the correct size (nor any other utility that I know of since no size calculation utility can handle NTFS junction points points)
- Driver installation issue: Whenever I want to install a custom driver for my hardware, the Plug and Play wizard now first installs its own Microsoft supplied driver or fails to install the driver if it doesn't have one out of the box. Then I have to open
Device Manager with UAC prompts and start the "Update driver wizard" to install my own driver. In XP, the "Found new hardware" wizard itself had "Have disk" functionality where I could supply the path to my driver on CD.
- System issue: No in place reinstall of OS to replace some corrupted files. With XP, I could reinstall the OS in-place so the OS would get repaired without my settings getting lost and programs having to be installed all over again
- System issue: No hardware profiles so I can start my laptop with certain hardware disabled (like 2 NICs-1 wireless, 1 wired), 2 sound cards) depending on what hardware I want to use
- IIS issue: SMTP and POP3 servers gone from IIS7
- Management issue: Offline Files can't be automated from command line like one could in XP using CscCmd.exe
- Power management issue:USB devices don't power off upon "safely removing". Data transfer stops but Windows 7 continues to supply power to USB devices
- Power management issue: There is no progress bar when hibernating, the screen just turns black
- Power management issue: Hardware power button can't be set to "Ask me what to do" every single time

Vista to Windows 7 issues:
- Shell/Explorer issue: Can't run 32-bit Explorer.exe in 64-bit Windows 7. Vista and XP x64 allowed that. Not all of my shell extensions are 64-bit.
- Shell/Explorer issue: There used to be a sort bar with column headers for every view in Windows Explorer in Vista. In Windows 7, only details view has it.
- Shell/Explorer issue: Windows Explorer doesn't remember toolbar positions so I can't unlock toolbars, rearrange them and lock them again. Every time I start Windows Explorer, each toolbar is forced on its own line.
- Shell/Explorer issue: Auto arrange and Align to Grid in icon views is always on so I can't drag a few files away from a group if I want to work only with them.
- Shell/Explorer issue: Old Vista style dialog boxes which use the ListView control still have the annoying full row selection in List view which makes it difficult to click in an empty area without making a file get selected. The new Windows 7 style dialogs
and Windows Explorer doesn't have this annoying issue thankfully though
- Shell/Explorer issue: If I select files then if I do an Edit menu -> Sort, they get deselected. I have to select them all over again.
- Shell/Explorer issue: I can't set a background JPEG for folders any more
- Taskbar issue: Clicking a grouped application's taskbar button or thumbnail when it is active (in the foreground) does not minimize it like it used to happen in XP. Only ungrouped application buttons minimize upon being clicked again. Another feature MS
probably forgot with grouping.
- Taskbar issue: Number of combined taskbar windows is not shown on the taskbar
- Taskbar issue: I can't select taskbar buttons with Ctrl+click and then selectively group maximize or group close
- Shell/Explorer issue: Advanced Query Syntax for searching has to be remembered. No advanced search GUI so search become easy like Vista
- Shell/Explorer issue: Game Explorer doesn't allow customizing game shortcuts. Many times I have to add switches to game shortcuts for compatiblity or resolution, it's so annoying!
- Taskbar issue: No network activity indicator.
- Shell/Explorer issue: In Windows Explorer, when you group items by category, I can longer Ctrl click on group headers to select entire group. Could do that in Vista.
- Power management issue: All three power plans (especially combination of Power Saver and High Performance) aren't shown from taskbar's power icons.
- Missing tool: No equivalent to Meeting Space or NetMeeting which was very useful for screen sharing and conferencing over LAN without internet access

It's no use whatsoever giving any kind of feedback or comments as I don't see the results of my feedback in service packs or hotfixes. Windows 7 is a wonderful but broken OS. Last non-broken with all functionality intact and working as intended was WinXP.Anonymuos

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May 21st, 2010 11:33am

One more point : it is poor that i still need a registry hack to turn NUMLOCK automatically on , or did i miss anything?
@ Anon : have a look at

http://www.itsamples.com/network-activity-indicator.html
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May 21st, 2010 12:54pm

I know about that network indicator but its biggest shortcoming and all other similar utilities is it doesn't blink at the same accuracy as the built-in Windows XP one did. You can adjust the blinking rate down to milliseconds but it still blinks whenever
there is no actual network activity. And that utility doesn't give access to *Status* of the connection.

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May 21st, 2010 1:56pm

I am very impressed with windows 7 with the following exception: product activation, it seems like every time that I need 2 re-install Windows 7 (which is quite oftion, because I do a whole lot of Pre-Release Software Testing), I always need
2 use Telephone Activation because it needs 2 ask me how many computers that I have the software installed on, Just FYI!

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May 24th, 2010 5:35pm

I prefer to use a virtual machine for testing, this way if there is a problem the rest of the system is not trashed.
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May 24th, 2010 5:42pm

There should be a custom install option where we can just install an OS.This is how Server2008 works. It does nothing except what you specifically tell it to do.
No toys. No gimmicks. Just an OS.
Want networking? Tell it that.
No messenger. No media player. No chat. No flash. No trash.
Just an OS.
No fax, no games, no browser, no nothing.
Just an OS.
Want only one port open on the firewall?
No problem.

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May 25th, 2010 4:11am

I prefer to use a virtual machine for testing, this way if there is a problem the rest of the system is not trashed.

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You Know That There Was A Recent News Media Article That Doing That May Violate Your Microsoft Software EULA Correct? Just FYI.Microsoft Beta Tester.

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June 8th, 2010 12:09am

My licesnses are all valid. And using a VM is fine, its free for Windows 7 users as a bonus.
If it breaks, I sinply dump it and reinstall it.
No worries.
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June 8th, 2010 12:30am

People have bean brainwashed by the slick promotions and poisoned by the relentless advertising blitz for Win 7. Windows 7 is slightly faster than Vista sp2 which is nothing to be proud of. No more than a
service pack. Programs just don't run on 7 as they should. Explorer is essentially disabled. Waste of time money memory and disk space. Many of the worlds largest and small businesses have decided not to forfeit millions of dollars on what would have bean
a major disaster. Corporations simply can not afford to switch from something proven and reliable to something not as good or no improvement whatsoever. Windows 7 appeals to kids who play video games and like high res graphics but for those who want
something done smoothly this is not for you. Only sad thing is new hardware makers are paid handsomely to make incompatible hardware with a previous OS>

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June 9th, 2010 6:49pm

People have bean brainwashed by the slick promotions and poisoned by the relentless advertising blitz for Win 7. Windows 7 is slightly faster than Vista sp2 which is nothing to be proud of. No more than a
service pack. Programs just don't run on 7 as they should. Explorer is essentially disabled. Waste of time money memory and disk space. Many of the worlds largest and small businesses have decided not to forfeit millions of dollars on what would have bean
a major disaster. Corporations simply can not afford to switch from something proven and reliable to something not as good or no improvement whatsoever. Windows 7 appeals to kids who play video games and like high res graphics but for those who want
something done smoothly this is not for you. Only sad thing is new hardware makers are paid handsomely to make incompatible hardware with a previous OS>

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June 9th, 2010 6:49pm

I use Windows 7 on a desktop and it works fine. I have noticed that notebooks are troublesome, which is typiclal. I have often mentioned that for any notebook, use what it came with.
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June 9th, 2010 7:07pm

People are entitled to a trouble free notebook when they spend their hard earned dollars. When a notebook is purchased with Windows 7 this is not the case. This has not bean the case in the past. I have a desktop that came with 7 preinstalled.
Now Running XP for preformance and simple folder system. Win 7 Explorer windows take to long to load. Programs don't run correctly on Win 7. Winsxs is the culprit. I say what I feel not what some company wants to hear.

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June 9th, 2010 7:46pm

People are entitled to a trouble free notebook when they spend their hard earned dollars. When a notebook is purchased with Windows 7 this is not the case. This has not bean the case in the past. I have a desktop that came with 7 preinstalled.
Now Running XP for preformance and simple folder system. Win 7 Explorer windows take to long to load. Programs don't run correctly on Win 7. Winsxs is the culprit. I say what I feel not what some company wants to hear.

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June 9th, 2010 7:46pm

If your machine came with Windows 7 installed from the vendor, then contact the vendor for assistance as that are supposed to be able to support it.
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June 9th, 2010 8:21pm

Why contact the vender? $$ Contacting the vender will not improve a featureless buggy over bloated and slow operating system. Venders $$ make hardware. They ship them with whatsoever operating system is on the market but please be aware
my good people that what we have is no more than a ploy on our hands. A diabolical scheme to make millions of dollars $$ by selling new hardware to the masses when there is no need whatsoever for new hardware but for the love of built in incompatibility/obsolescence.
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June 9th, 2010 8:51pm

Why contact the vender? $$ Contacting the vender will not improve a featureless buggy over bloated and slow operating system. Venders $$ make hardware. They ship them with whatsoever operating system is on the market but please be aware
my good people that what we have is no more than a ploy on our hands. A diabolical scheme to make millions of dollars $$ by selling new hardware to the masses when there is no need whatsoever for new hardware but for the love of built in incompatibility/obsolescence.
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June 9th, 2010 8:51pm

On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 19:07:01 +0000, in Technet.en-US.w7itprogeneral
Vegan Fanatic wrote:

> I use Windows 7 on a desktop and it works fine. I have noticed that notebooks are troublesome, which is typiclal. I have often mentioned that for any notebook, use what it came with.

My EEE notebook (a netbook) came with XP Home edition on it. But I now
run Windows 7 Ultimate on it and it runs just fine. It's certainly no
speed demon, but for my needs--primarily e-mail while traveling--its
speed is just fine too.
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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Good to see some have success with Windows 7 on a portable.Vote if answered or helpful, I am running for Office (joke)!
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June 9th, 2010 10:05pm

On a netbook all you run is an internet browser. But don't expect much more from it. Any OS can do this and satisfy an email facebooker. Windows 98 would suit your needs. Heck, I'll bet an iphone could handle emails better than what this poor
chap has infesting his netbook. And I would not expect much more from supporters of windows 7 who would boldly stand by it through thick or thin gallantly praising regardless of weather or not the product had any merit, for that matter even if
it would be be a well known drop of poop - spineless. Windows 7 new claim to fame is it's so called stablity. Absolute nonesense. Windows 7 has had more and more installation and hardware failures and needs a virtual copy of XP to run programs it really
should on it's own two feet. I have bean running XP for two years on the same partition HP pavillion. Never had a problem as long as my drivers were in order and avoided the optional hardware updates.

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June 9th, 2010 10:48pm

I hear much whining about Windows 7 and I cant figure it out. I read all of the posts on this site and it's one problem after another. I love Windows 7 and have no issues at all. In my opinion I think much of the complaining about software
and hardware not working with windows 7 is really due to operator error!

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June 11th, 2010 4:20pm

On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:20:35 +0000, tascott1 wrote:

> I hear much whining about Windows 7 and I cant figure it out. I read all of the posts on this site and it's one problem after another.

Of course you see problems here. This is a support group. People come
here *because* they have problems and are looking for solutions (and
most of the time they get solutions). A group like this is far from
representative of the world at large.

As someone else once said, hang around a transmission shop for a
while, and you'll think that all cars have transmission problems.

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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June 11th, 2010 5:20pm

Suggestions:
Fire the Marketing Dept. The word is they are the people who caused all the problems like putting the stupid fluffy yellow button where File command used to be, hiding from us the tree structure (+/-) in Explorer unless we buy another mouse and leave it hovering
over the tree, and many other things that cause stress in trying to use an OS.
Give us an OS where nothing is turned on. All those stupid processes running are nothing but wasted resources and unnecessary risk. Not everyone is little Suzy on facebook all day. There actually ARE people who use a pc as a TOOL to do this stuff called
WORK but I guess since the Marketing Dept controls everything you don't care about that.
Everything seems to cater to the money______ on the internet. What about the people trying to make a living? If there were not 250 processes running what would we need to have four cores and 12 gb of ram for? Autocad is still Autocad. But all that ____ running
in the background "IN CASE" little Suzy wants to pm her bff is ____ bullshit.
Make a little Suzy applicaiton if you must. But to ____ on me in that effort only alienates me from you. It won't be long before Linux or another application takes you out.

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June 24th, 2010 12:21am

PLEASE DO NOT USE THIS THREAD TO DISCUSS WINDOWS 7 BETA OR WINDOWS 7 RC.
Funny, because my suggestions always get moved to the RC thread. Is this supposed to make people think that all the issues are solved rather than having simply been ignored and become part of the retail product?If you buy three cars and the same wheel falls off all three, do you contact the person who sold you the cars or the person who made them?

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June 24th, 2010 1:59am

In my opinion I think much of the complaining about software and hardware not working with windows 7 is really due to operator error!
So you came here just to further confuse one of the worst ways in the entire world that a corporate entity can use to do market research?If you buy three cars and the same wheel falls off all three, do you contact the person who sold you the cars or the person who made them?

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June 24th, 2010 2:03am

I agree, how come when i right click on the desktop and i arrange the icons... the folders stay on the right?
i don't like that. WinXp was great for that.

couldn't you have left that alone?

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June 24th, 2010 4:20pm

PLEASE DO NOT USE THIS THREAD TO DISCUSS WINDOWS 7 BETA OR WINDOWS 7 RC.
Funny, because my suggestions always get moved to the RC thread. Is this supposed to make people think that all the issues are solved rather than having simply been ignored and become part of the retail product?

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Hi Freqy
Which RC thread are they being moved to? Could you post a link to an example of what you are describing?
Regards,
Thank You for using Windows 7

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June 24th, 2010 6:49pm

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itprogeneral/thread/8591ca36-3f9c-40e0-8248-f27109ee9228#a87a7047-e1e6-448b-8c42-891b8e699c84

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June 24th, 2010 7:12pm

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itprogeneral/thread/8591ca36-3f9c-40e0-8248-f27109ee9228#a87a7047-e1e6-448b-8c42-891b8e699c84

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June 24th, 2010 7:12pm

“Anonymuos” good
points I love it. I understand that you can't please everyone and so you have to give and take a few so I have no problem taking a few but a few great things were taken away. Looking at most of the comments here I don't have much to add that's not already
covered but here are a few.
Who took the ability away to join the domain during sysprep setup using a name that I want to enter manually and why?
This was a great feature for those of us not using one your deployment tool and the only true work around is to use a script posted by Mike_EEC at this thread:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/itprovistadeployment/thread/2d03e17d-c2ea-4d19-bf32-7db2e9975251
- I don’t want to hard code a name to my sysprep.xml/unattend.xml file. I want to be prompted for
one and not after the system has already generated a random one for me and join the domain with it - BTW this also affects Vista (Win ME2)
What’s with the arrow in the registry? You can barely see what key you are in on the left pane because it is so faint (Brilliant idea)
My company logo I set before joining the domain is gone once I add my computer to the domain with no easy way to get it back except again performing the task found in this thread
by KJCJK:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/itprovistadesktopui/thread/881f6bbe-7f39-4151-85ff-da3e2e147c2f?prof=required
- another brilliant design and again this also affect Windows Vista. Either allow me to keep
the logo or take the thing away.Mca

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June 24th, 2010 9:10pm

Major issue with the install disk in recovery mode:
For unknown reason, I've got the 100Mb boot partition, created during install, somewhat corrupted.
So I've tried to fix it with the Recovery Option from the install disk. GUES WHAT ? Not possible, as the Recovery does not see the installation. Looks like it search on the first partition to see if an OS is installed, as in older systems. But the first
partition is now the new 100 Mb boot. There is no OS on it, and the Recovery Disk does not know to use it.
Funny - to deliver an OS with an Recovery facility, but to FORGET to "tell" to the recovery the new partition system you have introduced. So the boot recovery is useless when using your new "facility". Don't see the point here.
And yes, the recovery works, IF the NEW 100Mb partition is not used on a disk ( not created - disk partitioned with other partitioning tools ) so the Windows 7 IS on the REAL first partition.
Have to work there guys. But I can bet it will be not fixed until Windows 8 or even NEVER.
I just complaint for about 5 years about the fact you use wrong settings for Romania in Media center and that was never fixed. Just promises.

And because I've made a complaint there about the recovery, something about how I fix it and recover my information, but in a very strange way. I've mounted the HDD in a Vista computer. After 2 reboots it has show me all the partitions so I was able
to delete de 100 mb partition and the Windows 7 one and create a new partition in their place. After that I was able to reinstall Windows 7, and to acces the data on the other 2 partitions I've had on the HDD, wich were not recognised after the boot corruption.
Strange, but mounting the HDD on other sistems using Xp or Windows 7 didn't work. Only Vista helped me.

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June 28th, 2010 12:00pm

Hi Cristi, you should open an own thread for your question."I think there is a world market for maybe five computers. (Thomas J. Watson, Sr.)

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June 28th, 2010 12:08pm

Which RC thread are they being moved to? Could you post a link to an example of what you are describing?
So let me just get this straight: After buying the product and providing you with feedback which you've moved, you want me to help you find it as well?
Solution: Microsoft Connect for Windows 7...
...If you buy three cars and the same wheel falls off all three, do you contact the person who sold you the cars or the person who made them?

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July 2nd, 2010 5:54am

What’s with the arrow in the registry? You can barely see what key you are in on the left pane because it is so faint (Brilliant idea)
Hear hear!!!If you buy three cars and the same wheel falls off all three, do you contact the person who sold you the cars or the person who made them?

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July 2nd, 2010 5:57am

What’s with the arrow in the registry? You can barely see what key you are in on the left pane because it is so faint (Brilliant idea)
Hear hear!!!

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July 2nd, 2010 5:57am

You're not the first to mention it, although, perhaps more emphatically.

"Bring back the XP themes please or at least
make the blue a bit darker."
"Try it in Regedit. It disappears COMPLETELY and makes it almost impossible to see what key is open."

Personally, I find it more consistently troublesome in Windows Explorer. But that's the least of things I find troublesome with Windows Explorer.

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July 2nd, 2010 10:35pm

Too bad the current builds of SP1 address zero problems in Explorer. Forget about Windows Explorer ever getting fixed. If it wasn't done in Vista SP1, Vista SP2, Windows 7 and Windows 7 SP1, chances are it will never be even in Windows 8.Anonymuos

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July 6th, 2010 9:23am

July 6th, 2010 11:04am

When it comes to that old saying you don't get anything for free we don't get much with our free service pack. Not worth installing. You can't integrate it offline without sysprep anywayWindows
Wondows Fax and Scan is a great software to include in win 7. But I can seem to include the recipient's name or company in the header. I usually fax without the cover page (save a page) and it just shows the recipient's fax #. It would be great if the header
could include the recipients name.

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July 16th, 2010 3:43am

Unfortunately the Windows Fax & Scan lacks the ability to integrate with other programs which means a lot of cut & paste for me to send a fax out for business reasons.

I have a USB modem and its helpful as a PCI card draws a lot more power. It was inexpensive too and works with Windows 7 fine.
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July 16th, 2010 3:47am

Windows Fax and Scan is lame, use another app. No PDF. No support for TWAIN scanner, V.34 bis speeds. No multifunction printer fax support.Anonymuos

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July 16th, 2010 1:10pm

Windows Fax & Scan is designed for the internal modem, for a multifunction machine you should use the vendor supplied software.

I use an old HP scanner and Windows Fax & Scan works with it fine.

As I have CS4, I have PDF printing so Its no big deal. Adobe CS is expensive to keep updating every time they want more cash. Microsoft is less greedy.

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July 16th, 2010 1:15pm

Windows Fax and Scan is lame, use another app. No PDF. No support for TWAIN scanner, V.34 bis speeds. No multifunction printer fax support.

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July 16th, 2010 5:48pm

Scan limits where I can save images. No option to save directly to the desktop or other folders as with older versions.

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July 16th, 2010 10:46pm

Open up My Computer and type \\another-computer into the address bar.
1 - There is no indication that activity is taking place.
2 - Behaviour seems to vary depending on whether you hit Enter on the qwerty or Enter on the numpad.
3 - The dialog box that opens to ask you for a password has as its default button the current/different user area so when you hit return you are back to square one.
We all know Windows 7 was designed by my Grandma and a bunch of school kids, the question is did anyone try to use it before it shipped?If you buy three cars and the same wheel falls off all three, do you contact the person who sold you the cars or the person who made them?

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July 21st, 2010 3:45am

the person behind the comp is lame would be a better way to describe things , .... dont blame a program over your incompitence
or lack of knowledge of the program in Q
How is lack of features in W7's Fax and Scan which were there in XP's Fax my incompetence or lack of knowledge? Stop being a troll and learn to spell "incompetence" right.

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July 23rd, 2010 9:58pm

One UI issue is unsolved since Windows 3.x:
Any application can steak the focus.
You type in a forum, in word, an email, and ANY application can steal the window focus with "new mail!" "Hey I am important!" "Delete OS?" "Destroy universe?" "Really delete all your important data?" box
right in the middle of typing text, so many times a keypress ends up in the message box instead of the email. It often confirms actions you do NOT want, never asked for it, but the application stole the focus and there is no way to react fast enough when it
happens.
This is also a security issue if you are typing in passwords, and suddenly another box asks for input (happened a few times here).
The right behavior would be: Displaying the box foreground, but do NOT steal application focus. The only allowed "focus stealing" are message boxes etc from within one application.

Another UI issue is: Aero peek allows us to preview the windows in the background without clicking it, but any keypress closes the preview, in a perfect world it would be like this (had something like that in Vista with Ave-Thumbnail-Sizer):
The window is previewed, the actually active application is still visible behind the glass, all other applications are glassed out. Any keypress (i.e. I type text of an aero-peek previewed picture) does go to the actually active application behind the preview
and aero peek stays open.
It would save the need for two monitors in many cases too.
A bit like this:
http://csb-filderstadt.homepage.t-online.de/Aero-peek-would-be-absolut-perfect-this-way.jpg

0ne more UI issue since Win 3.x (though rare today): Application is open, and shows a message box. But due to some strange UI behaviour the message box is displayed BEHIND the main application window. You cannot get the messagebox foreground when you try,
you can foreground the App, but the messagebox stays behind. This loved to happen a lot with office 2000 when it was new : ), but still occurs sometimes with todays software. A way would be: When right-clicking a task on the taskbar, allow the selection of
a sub window, could be compared how a grouped explorer displays a menu or all it's open windows, messageboxex and copy tasks.

All those three solved would make me buy Win 8 ; ), but a solution for Win7 is welcome too of course.

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October 12th, 2010 5:26pm

One UI issue is unsolved since Windows 3.x:
Any application can steak the focus.
You type in a forum, in word, an email, and ANY application can steal the window focus with "new mail!" "Hey I am important!" "Delete OS?" "Destroy universe?" "Really delete all your important data?" box
right in the middle of typing text, so many times a keypress ends up in the message box instead of the email. It often confirms actions you do NOT want, never asked for it, but the application stole the focus and there is no way to react fast enough when it
happens.
This is also a security issue if you are typing in passwords, and suddenly another box asks for input (happened a few times here).
The right behavior would be: Displaying the box foreground, but do NOT steal application focus. The only allowed "focus stealing" are message boxes etc from within one application.

Another UI issue is: Aero peek allows up to preview the windows in the background without clicking it, but any keypress closes the preview, in a perfect world it would be like this (had something like that in Vista with Ave-Thumbnail-Sizer):
The window is previewed, the actually active application is still visible behind the glass, all other applications are glassed out. Any keypress (i.e. I type text of an aero-peek previewed picture) does go to the actually active application and aero peek
stays open.
It would save the need for two monitors in many cases too.
A bit like this:
http://csb-filderstadt.homepage.t-online.de/Aero-peek-would-be-absolut-perfect-this-way.jpg

0ne more UI issue since Win 3.x (though rare today): Application is open, and shows a message box. But due to some strange UI behaviour the message box is displayed BEHIND the main application window. You cannot get the messagebox foreground when you try,
you can foreground the App, but the messagebox stays behind. This loved to happen a lot with office 2000 when it was new : ), but still occurs sometimes with todays software. A way would be: When right-clicking a task on the taskbar, allow the selection of
a sub window, could be compared how a grouped explorer displays a menu or all it's open windows, messageboxex and copy tasks.

All those three solved would make me buy Win 8 ; ), but a solution for Win7 is welcome too of course.

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October 12th, 2010 5:26pm

Windows 3.x go back to around 1990 or some 20 years ago now. It cannot be compared to the work that has gone into Windows 7. Since then more than 1 million man hours of development have been poured into Windows.
I actually like Windows 7 as its much faster than Vista and about as fast as the old Windows XP for start-up. Windows 7 though is a much more sophisticated OS compared to XP.
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October 12th, 2010 5:30pm

Any application can steak the focus.
I love the typo - it gives me a mental image of someone having focus and then Windows coming along like Buffy the Vampire Slayer and 'steaking' it. :-)
Windows 3.x go back to around 1990 or some 20 years ago now. It cannot be compared to the work that has gone into Windows 7. Since then more than 1 million man hours of development have been poured into Windows.
Yes, and the point being made is that bugs have existed for 20 years, millions of hours and billions of dollars have gone into the product, and the bugs are still there. As someone who has always made these criticisms available to MS with each new version,
you start to wonder if they don't care about the issue or they simply don't know it exists.
Poeple like you will ensure that each version of Windows makes a bucketload of cash regardless of how many supposed improvements there are (or aren't).
This is because you believe it is more sophisticated. How? In what way? It looks a lot prettier, and if you look through this forum you can find hundreds, if not
thousands of ways in which it is worse than XP, but other than that, can you name one improvement from WinXP to Win7 that shouldn't have just been in Windows 98?Just trying to get value-for-money for the $20,000 worth of your products I support...

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October 12th, 2010 9:07pm

I actually like Windows 7 as its much faster than Vista and about as fast as the old Windows XP for start-up. Windows 7 though is a much more sophisticated OS compared to XP.

I never said Win7 is bad, it is good, I wouldn't use it if it were bad.
This also applies to Vista (with SP2).
But there is room for improvement.
If I would want to make a Win7 bashing post my choice of words and grammar would have been different, and I would have dug up every tiny possible detail. If you look at my post with open eyes you will see that changing these things would really improve usability,
you can type your text concentrated without interruption-fear, and without constantly moving your head between two (or more) monitors.
And the last part would help getting control of bad written applications.

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October 13th, 2010 11:16pm

Any application can steak the focus.
I love the typo - it gives me a mental image of someone having focus and then Windows coming along like Buffy the Vampire Slayer and 'steaking' it. :-)

I was hungry during typing, and a "steak ready" messagebox stole my focus.

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October 13th, 2010 11:20pm

I just want to have different proxy settings for different wireless network. And I do not want to use auto script.

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February 25th, 2011 9:30pm

In having had Windows 7 now daily in hard use for well over a year, I can now say a few things based on experience...
To Microsoft:
1. Explorer really, really needs more attention in your next version. It is the Grand Integrator, and I for one use it every day, all the time. It needs to be the most usable window in the system, and to accomplish that
it needs to be much more flexible and configurable, while remaining rock solid stable. Put some really good people on the project.
2. I find Windows 7 x64 to be rock solid stable virtually for forever. Your kernel is second to none. It's the most solid system ever, though Vista did a pretty good job.
Never forget that this level of stability is now a REQUIREMENT for any new system you make. I need to be able to do my work day in and day out, having the computer on 24/7, without having to be paranoid that it's going to lose
my data, and with Windows 7 (on a good computer) you have finally accomplished that! Bravo! Windows 7 really eclipses XP in this regard, and it's surprising so many business users have been slow to adopt it.
3. All the pretty desktop glitz is nice, but please don't consider it so important that actual functionality is sacrified. Windows is not a feature film, nor a video game, nor an entertainment system. It is an operating system
on which people expect to be able to get whatever they want to do done. Try not to forget it's not the end-all, but rather the facilitator. Thank you for the configurability to turn off some of this stuff - e.g., Aero Peek.
Please don't eliminate configurability in the guise of "simplifying"!
Rather than over-simplifying things, keep in mind that people sometimes just need to be taught to use computers better. A rich user interface that's very consistent is actually simpler than a simple looking but arbitrary user interface.
4. You seem to place a lot of weight on "reducing cognitive load" - we see this as a lot of UI elements that are just being removed. Keep in mind a lot of us have a lot of ability to multitask and do a lot of work, and have no problem actually
reading lots of things on the screen. We want a heavy cognitive load - it makes us productive. The mass market may be people who can do only one thing at a time and just want an entertainment delivery system, but just don't forget that
business users expect to get value from Windows as a real computer operating system as well. You've made a system that on a modern computer can do TONS of work.
Don't make it hard for people who CAN do multiple things simultaneously to actually DO them.
-Noel

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February 26th, 2011 8:37am

In my experience, Windows 7 has managed to avoid being reinstalled over and over again like I had to do with XP. Every time XP became unusable I would waste a day installing everything.
I managed to kill the XP mode VM rather quickly.
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February 26th, 2011 8:40am

I don't know if someone mentioned before me, but: Windows is to bloated. I mean, look at XP or Vista, freshly installed. Even having no updates, they can take more than 10 GB of disk space. Why so much, despite in fresh Vista and XP there's no special
tools after fresh install? No codecs, no built-in antimalware/security tools like AV or network scanner .etc. Look at Ubuntu - after installation it takes no more than 3GB disk space and have at least Ogg vorbis codecs and few administration/security
tools.
I now that these two are different kernels, but why MS can't make Windows kernel smaller and much optimized? Instead of putting to system billions of old drivers, those can be placed at Driver Database.
I want reach someday the moment when Windows finally will be micro soft(ware) not huge bloatware and experience that feel that after bigger system update, system won't start working slower.
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February 26th, 2011 10:07am

I agree Windows has become bigger but my $40 500 GB disk does the job fine. The disk has lots of room for tons of applications and games fine.
I can also find a bigger 2 TB disk for $90 of late.
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February 26th, 2011 10:10am

I agree, Windows Explorer is awfull, as I said since the first beta. Toooooooo sloooooooow, tooooooo processor eater...
Anyway, I love W7, but I had to move from 64 bits to 32 bits because of the hardware uncompatibilities. W7 64 needs a more modern machine that the mine, and I have no money enought right now.

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February 26th, 2011 10:25am

Since Windows 7 was released I have upgraded my motherboard and video card and expanded the memory.
The taskbar is better with Windows 7 than it is with Vista. Looks best on HD or better resolutions.
I used the x64 version fine with 2 GB of RAM. I now have 4 GB but the big improvements came with the new MB and video card.
RAM has come way down in price so I probably will buy more this year.
That and more hard disks
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February 26th, 2011 10:30am

This type of thinking is kind of dangerous. Of course, there are bigger disks. But bigger disk will do nothing when system gets slower after next updates. Plus such thinking only ensure developers that they can develop shitty bloat, because user gonna buy
faster machine later. It won't have positive effects on IT, but that's my opinion.
New trend has arrived to IT many years ago: software bloating properties are increasing proportionally to speed and quality of hardware. I know that unused memory or CPU time or disk space is some kind of waste, but this waste can be prevented, but
not by bloating whole machine -_-
For evangelists crying for wasted hardware power i have for example: BOINC ;)

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February 26th, 2011 3:55pm

bigger disk will do nothing when system gets slower after next updates.

The whole concept that Windows will inevitably slow down is just nonsense.
If your system is getting slower and slower it's because YOU are either installing all kinds of stuff, or allowing web sites to do so.
My system is if anything faster than it was in January 2010, and I've never reinstalled anything.
Why?
Because I keep track of what's running. Occasionally I scout around with AutoRuns and the Task Manager, noticing if anything new is running, and if I find a difference I get to the bottom of it. This does not take long, maybe 10 minutes a month.
Being more educated about what's running on your computer is a Good Thing.
-Noel

I agree, it's user's business keeping the system clean and healthy. But main problem i mentioned is Windows's appetite for disk space. Freshly installed XP or Vista are taking too much of this space. Win7 tooks a liitle less but still it's too much. I know
that hdd are much cheaper than few years ago, but it's not pretext. If technology is getting more advanced from year to year, why MS can't finally decrease weight of their systems?
It's true, that Windows is getting better every year - more advanced and optimized, simpler in use or even getting more candy-eyed look. But it's size is nonsense to me and i bet to many other people too.

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February 27th, 2011 6:47am

Yes, but.... if you look at the running processes, you can see a lot of WTF, "can I terminate this?" A lot are, of course, installed by third party, but, well... I use my computer with third party programs, not only Windows :D

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February 27th, 2011 7:27am

I use a gaming desktop machine for work, the machine is updated regularly. I buy a new MB with each revision of the PCI Express slot but only after a few revisions of chipsets are out as I want stability.
My current board is a standard ATX with the AMD 770 chipset. PCI Express 2 and it makes my GTX 260 run fine.
Now I see a lot of notebooks in the shop and they need to be replaced outright as they have limited upgrade potential.
So I for a notebook use the supplied OS.
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February 27th, 2011 7:44am

On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:04:11 +0000, ryniek wrote:

I don't know if someone mentioned before me, but: Windows is to bloated. I mean, look at XP or Vista, freshly installed. Even having no updates, they can take more than 10 GB of disk space. Why so much, despite in fresh Vista and XP there's no special
tools a

Newer versions of just about any software is bigger than what came
before it. That's mostly because it has more and better features.
But measure the size of software in dollars (or whatever your local
currency is) and almost everything gets smaller, because disk drives
get cheaper all the time. A 160GB disk drive sells for about $36 these
days (and bigger drives are even cheaper per GB). My \Windows folder
is about 20GB, 1/8 of a 160GB drive. That's under $5 worth of disk
space. You call it "bloated," but I call it tiny--smaller than older
versions of Windows.
If disk space was still as expensive as it had been, there would be
some justification in complaining about Windows's size. But measuring
size in dollars is the correct way to measure, as far as I'm
concerned, and Windows 7 is tiny.
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP

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February 27th, 2011 12:24pm

My 500 GB disk cost me $50 plus tax new last summer, now the disk is $40, whatever
I am probably going to get a 2 TB disk for the machine so that storage is not at issue, those are down to $90
Most new desktops are using 1 TB disks which is fine for most, with the lower prices for 2 TB I see those becoming very common this year.
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February 27th, 2011 12:44pm

But main problem i mentioned is Windows's appetite for disk space. Freshly installed XP or Vista are taking too much of this space. Win7 tooks a liitle less but still it's too much. I know that hdd are much cheaper than few years ago, but it's
not pretext. If technology is getting more advanced from year to year, why MS can't finally decrease weight of their systems?

How is it that you think the "technology is getting more advanced" that they could "decrease weight of their systems"? A Pentium processor still gets just about the same amount of work done per instruction as it ever did. More sophistication
means more software means more and larger files.
And do you think all the new fancy graphics are without "weight"?
Shoot, even a display driver update nowadays ships in a 100 MB zip file.
Honestly, tens of gigabytes as an OS footprint is a drop in the bucket on a modern system. If you are complaining that it just won't work on your old computer, well then either keep running the old software or get a new computer!
-Noel

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February 27th, 2011 1:24pm

Newer versions of just about any software is bigger than what came before it. That's mostly because it has more and better features.
If only that were true. Really its because the software interfaces become so messy and hacked-upon that virtually every routine in the code has lines and lines of kludge and work-around code.
I'd estimate that barring a few hundred K of actually new functionality, what mainly makes a new version of Windows bigger is

Building in more drivers for things you will never own Adding graphics to interfaces that worked just fine without them Packing in endless versions of the same thing for compatibility Throwing in more and more useless help and brainless trouble-shooters Working in C++ reminds me that some things are almost as illogical as Microsoft

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February 27th, 2011 7:49pm

I am a developer and I use C++ most of the time. My software is efficient mostly die to the algorithms I have in my library.
Programs using .NET are a tad bigger due to the intermediate language build that is done.

Depending on the product, Office 2010 has so many features I likely use 2% of them. Somebody else though may use other parts. Somebody else another way. This is what makes Office so big is to cover a wide range of uses.

Games are mostly artwork and modern games feature very intricate and detailed artwork that needs a fair bit of storage.

I use C++ as its a good language but its richness means a steep learning curve.

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February 27th, 2011 8:15pm

Newer versions of just about any software is bigger than what came before it. That's mostly because it has more and better features.
If only that were true. Really its because the software interfaces become so messy and hacked-upon that virtually every routine in the code has lines and lines of kludge and work-around code.
I'd estimate that barring a few hundred K of actually new functionality, what mainly makes a new version of Windows bigger is

Building in more drivers for things you will never own Adding graphics to interfaces that worked just fine without them Packing in endless versions of the same thing for compatibility Throwing in more and more useless help and brainless trouble-shooters

Working in C++ reminds me that some things are almost as illogical as Microsoft

You've right man. Code 's getting bigger because of stupid decisions of greedy companies - it's cheaper adding, as you mentioned, code-workarounds and leave old code unused, than refactoring and optimizing the code. Code is still growing, and voila!
We have big fat wale instead of fast and lithesome dolphin. Now You all have yours "more and better features"...

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February 28th, 2011 1:37pm

The Windows DVD has lots of drivers on it, more with each new version of Windows. This is due to the growing number of chipsets and network adapters out there.
Sadly standards are far from firm for network adapters which all use some standards for interoperability. USB cards have the standard driver model so vendors can focus on making cards cheaper.
If chipset interfaces were simpler and standardized better then fewer drivers would be needed.
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February 28th, 2011 1:40pm

The Windows DVD has lots of drivers on it, more with each new version of Windows. This is due to the growing number of chipsets and network adapters out there.
. . .

None the less, between Vista and Windows 7, the Uli drivers were removed. This made it impossible to install Windows 7 on my MSI RD480.

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February 28th, 2011 6:19pm

Microsoft does not develop the drivers (except for their mice etc). Companies like Intel and AMD provide drivers to place on the DVD. Lots of other companies do the same.
More and more companies are also now using Windows update for distributing drivers and updates.

As for your Uli driver, check with MSI over that as they are the hardware provider.
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February 28th, 2011 6:46pm

Sorry Fanatic.
My point was that support for this chipset was included as part of Vista. Only the driver for the SATA1/AHCI function of the ULi M1573 chip was not included in Windows 7. The other drivers are there:
---------- MACHINE.INF
%PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_7101.DeviceDesc% = NO_DRV, PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_7101
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_7101.DeviceDesc = "ALi 7101 Power Management Controller"
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_7101&SUBSYS_710110B9&REV_00\3&267A616A&0&F1: ALi 7101 Power Management Controller

---------- MSHDC.INF
%PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5229.DeviceDesc%=aliide_Inst, PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5229 ; ALi
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5229.DeviceDesc="ULi M5229 PCI Bus Master IDE Controller"
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5229&SUBSYS_71941462&REV_C7\3&267A616A&0&F8: ULi M5229 PCI Bus Master IDE Controller

---------- USBPORT.INF
%PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5237&CC_0C0310.DeviceDesc%=OHCI_HYDRA.Dev,PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5237&CC_0C0310
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5237&CC_0C0310.DeviceDesc="ULi PCI to USB Open Host Controller"
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5237&SUBSYS_523710B9&REV_03\3&267A616A&0&E2: ULi PCI to USB Open Host Controller

%PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5239&CC_0C0320.DeviceDesc%=EHCI.Dev,PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5239&CC_0C0320
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5239&CC_0C0320.DeviceDesc="ULi USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller"
PCI\VEN_10B9&DEV_5239&SUBSYS_523810B9&REV_01\3&267A616A&0&E3: ULi USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller

I will start a new thread in Windows 7 Hardware Compatibility.

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