Cannot see my Home Server when I try and add a file location for Zune to download from
I have a clean install of 7 but for the life of me I am having a bear of a time finding the setting that will allow my home server to show up under the "Network" settings in the control panel. Each time I try and get Zune or windows media player (I did find a work around with WMP) it does not see the server. It only see's local shared compters. What gives? Any odeas?Thanks Sam
February 8th, 2009 10:39am

By home server do you mean Windows Home Server?http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/windowshomeserver/default.mspxKerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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February 8th, 2009 7:10pm

Yes it is a Windows Home Server. I can see it from the shared folders that are created when I added the connector and it shows up in the main window of both computer and network desktop icons but it doesn't show up under the "Network" link on the left side of the page. So, when I try and add another location to watch in both Windows Media Player and Zune the location of the server does not show up. The only locations that show up are the other two computers on the network, both Vista boxes.Sam
February 8th, 2009 8:24pm

I'm not seeing the same behaviour. In the Network and Sharing Center click on "Change advanced sharing settings". Is Network Discovery on?Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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February 8th, 2009 9:16pm

Network Discovery is on as well as all of the other sharing settings I can make. What's interesting is that in the network tree the only items that show up are computers on the network and not the server. In the main window my X-Box, routers, servers all show up.Thanks for the reply KerrySam
February 8th, 2009 9:26pm

I understand, sphami, that you've turned on all your sharing attributes. Additionally, it may be a security conflict. Windows 7 has many new security enhancements that make it even stronger in the business world; but a bit more difficult for users at home like us. I had trouble sharing any folders/files/extra hard drives with my other PCs using older Windows versions. After turning on all my sharing attributes, as youve done, I could see my other desktop and laptop on the network and they could see my desktop with Windows 7. However, even though they all recognized each other I still couldnt get access. I made a step by step post on my fix after hours of tinkering around. Maybe this fix would work for your media sharing trouble with the Xbox etc. that you are experiencing. I don't know that this will help with certainty. But it may be worth a shot if you want to take the time. Here is the link to my step by step post maybe you could apply this idea to your home server settings? http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itpronetworking/thread/033c418b-1096-4df7-bfad-fd3d431f3cd5 Id love to hear what your result is, if you try it, could you reply either way? Id love the feedback! Thanks!
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February 8th, 2009 11:29pm

HiYou can map root folder of home servermanually using map network drive button/function.Type full path manually, it will be something like that:\\homeserver\drivename\Check reconnect at login check box to have it available when windows loadsI think problem is that W7 machine uses other workgroup.Workgroup and homegroup is not the same.Better way is to map home server drive so you will no longer need to frowse network to use it.
February 9th, 2009 12:32am

Everyone of my computers and server do use the same workgroup and yes I do know that the workgroup is different from the W7 Homegroup. I can share to a file and I could map however that is not what I want to do as it will not really help my situation with out making a bunch of mapped paths. Up until W7 I could add my server as a share and not have to share a file. This way when I wanted to uplaod or download movies, music, pictures I did not have to have three different mapped files on the server to achieve this. I could downloand and upload in one activity instead of having to separate music, movies and pictures activities.Sam
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February 9th, 2009 2:24am

Shockdoctor7,I tried this exact method yesterday or the day before and you are right. If I want to share files/folders this works fine. What I need to do is share the root on my server so I can pickup music, movies and pictures in opne step. Basically what this ends up doing is I watch the server for files I download directly to it and then if they are movies, music or pictures they automatically populate in WMP, ZUNE and X-Box. It worked quite well with Vista.Sam
February 9th, 2009 2:28am

sphami said: Everyone of my computers and server do use the same workgroup and yes I do know that the workgroup is different from the W7 Homegroup. I can share to a file and I could map however that is not what I want to do as it will not really help my situation with out making a bunch of mapped paths. Up until W7 I could add my server as a share and not have to share a file. This way when I wanted to uplaod or download movies, music, pictures I did not have to have three different mapped files on the server to achieve this. I could downloand and upload in one activity instead of having to separate music, movies and pictures activities.SamBetter call the man who installed all of yourcomputer and serversand pay to him to set everithing as you would like
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February 9th, 2009 3:57am

Windows Home Server uses a unique file system that is not accessed by drive letters. Doing so may cause file file corruption. You should only access the shares from WHS not the drives.Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
February 9th, 2009 4:24am

Kerry_Brown said: Windows Home Server uses a unique file system that is not accessed by drive letters. Doing so may cause file file corruption. You should only access the shares from WHS not the drives. Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience I cannot understand what this may mean. How can access drive via network if it is not shared, and what is relation of file system with network access?If you want to highlight your knowledge this is other thing of course :)
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February 9th, 2009 4:53am

The file system for WHS uses NTFS but the drives are not setup as you normally do in Windows. All drives are part of a pool kind of like JBOD. Folders are duplicated across multiple drives for redundancy. If you add a new drive WHS formats it and adds it to the storage pool. Data is automatically moved to this drive to create redundancy. The data is automatically balanced across all the drives in the pool. To create shares you use the WHS Console which is installed on the client computers. If you try to manage the file system by other means you will probably cause the file system to become corrupted. Youshouldn't share the root of a drive because there really are no individual drives. You could actually share the root of C: or D: by logging into the server but this would interfere with the management of the storage pool and probably have unexpected and possibly disastrous results if you started copying files and creating new folders.Here's some documentation on the WHS file systemhttp://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=40c6c9cc-b85f-45fe-8c5c-f103c894a5e2&DisplayLang=enKerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
February 9th, 2009 5:13am

I also believe there is an issue with the new way W7 resolves network names. My current system has a WHS, an XP (SP3) box, 2 Vista (SP1) and both a 32bit W7 Laptop and a 64bit W7 box. I am able to get the home server connector to work and it backs up both W7 machines just fine but neither of the W7 boxes will see the WHS in the network map, no matter the settings. Even the desktop shortcut to the WHS shared folders will not find the WHS computer. I can access them by using the ip (i.e. \\192.168.xxx.xxx\software but I cannot use the name. Yes the server name is non standard (xxxx-server) but it has always worked for XP & Vista. What is also interesting is the fact that in the network map you can see and reach the media connect and the WHS website homepage.So can someone shead a little light on how W7 resolves names. I would like to get this addressed.ThanksThomas
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February 10th, 2009 12:17am

I can see my Home Server in Windows 7. There must be something different in the way our systems are configured. Are you using any 3rd party security programs?Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
February 10th, 2009 1:01am

Yes, I am tring both Norton 360 v3 beta on the 32 bit, and Kaspersky v 8 beta on the 64 bit. But you could not see it without any security before. As I also mentioned I can access the WHS by its IP address at any time it just will not resolve the name, and maybe it's due to the hyphen in the name. It just seems funny.ThanksThomas
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February 10th, 2009 1:08am

Can you ping the WHS by name?Click on Start Orb => Network. Do you see the WHS? It should be in there twice, once as a Network Device, and once as a Computer.In the Network and Sharing Center does your network show up as Public, Private, or Domain?Have you changed any NIC properties either via the gui or with a netsh command?Kerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
February 10th, 2009 3:48am

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