Can't Login to XP with Domain User anymore! Also, SLOOOOW login to Win7 when on Domain user
Alright, I would REALLY appreciate any help people can give me here. Sorry for the long post, I am trying to be detailed. I doubt I am the only one who had this problem, but couldn't find a simalar post on the forum.Here is the situation-XP and Win7 Dual Boot (fresh install of BOTH)So. I have XP all up and running. Can login with my domain users, etc.I install Win 7. Update it, and join my works domain.IF I login to the domain using Win7 WHILE connected to the network, it stalls at the black screen with build info for 5-25 minutes. If I disconnect the network cable, it logs in REALLY fast with the same user using what I assume are the cached login settings.Drive Maps and such aren't pushed out in either scenario. BUT I can access them using the path, \\test\shareI am deffinitly curious about the slow login issue...... Only happens when connected to the network and logging into Win7 with a Domain User.NOW, I tried to login as my normal work account on XP, and the account no longer will conect, neither will one of my admin accounts. It said the domain could not be contacted or something like that. I had to log in as my local admin account.So, I logged into Win7 and XP as local admins, and removed both from the domain.Added my Win XP boot BACK to the Domain.RebootWas able to login to the domain using my normal Domain User on Win XP.Reboot, was able to login as a domain admin. No problems yet-Logged into Win 7 as a local user on the workgroup, connected to a network share via the path \\blah\blah and entering a legit users credentials.I reboot, back to Win XP, and my domain user can Still log in.Now, the question is, if I re-add the Win7 back into the domain, and log in there, will I again not be able to log onto my XP build with a domain user which is what happened with no reason behind it that I can figure out before???Thanks,Josh Josh
February 24th, 2009 7:24pm

Are you the domain admin or do you just have rights to a particular OU? Is your domain running any software that prevents unauthorized access? Are both installed using the same IP address? You may (as from what I would guess) have an issue where the domain controller-which may be your DNC and DHCP serveris getting confused. When you log in under XP, you present your IP, MAC address along with your computer account SID. Wine you log in under Win7 with the same hardware, you present the same information; however with a different SID. You domain controller may believe that someone is trying to spoof the MAC address. I am not saying this is the case, but it is (or something similar to) what I would guess would happen. I have never dual booted two or more OSs where each were on the same domain coming from the same hardware. Doing it from a VM; however, is different.
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February 24th, 2009 9:26pm

I am 'the' admin. The admin account I was speaking of is just an admin account that I use for management purposes. It does have full rights though.I have an ISA server running, but I don't think it's doing any Intrusion Prevention type of role.The DC is the DNS/DHCP server so your idea makes a lot of sense.However, why then would it just take a LOOOONG time to load past the black screen for Win7, but then login attempts back on the XP build with the same users that have logged into Win7fail with the warning kind of stated above?I could rename the computer in Win7 so it doesn't have the same name as in Win XP, but that wouldn't fix any potential MAC issues, or IP issues since those are doled out by DHCP.Josh
February 25th, 2009 12:03am

So your dual boot workstation has the same IP address, MAC address, and computer name? Yes, that is your problem. If you have the option, using your naming convention do something like comp-01-xp for your XP boot and comp-01-w7 for the Windows 7 side. However, I still would not be surprised if you have problems due to the MAC address issue (your DHCP will pretty much always grant the same IP address to the same MAC address when possible). What I would do if it were me would be load Windows 7 as the primary OS and bring it on the domain. Load up XP in VPC and bring it on the domain. This way, both OSs can be installed, running and participating on the domain. However, this is contingent on your operating procedures.
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February 25th, 2009 5:12am

Heres a thought then-What if I stuff a 2nd NIC in the PC, and in Win XP disable that one, but in Win7 disable my primary and enable the secondary?Would that possibly work, then I will have a different MAC & PC Name for each OS? Josh
February 25th, 2009 6:40pm

Yes! Josh, that is a very good solution. Assign one NIC to the XP install, and the other to the Win7 install. This way, when you boot into XP, the DC, DNS, DHCP server will see MAC address 00-11-22-1A-2B-2C with computer name win-xp-01 and issue out IP address 123.123.123.001. On the next boot into Windows 7, the DC, DNS, DHCP server will see MAC address 00-11-11-A2-B2-C2 with computer name win-w7-01 and issue out IP address 123.123.123.002. (Of course all of these numbers are illustrative examples). With a configuration like this, the domain controller will believe that the one computer is actually two separate and distinct computers.
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February 26th, 2009 3:54am

Darien,The Dual NIC solution seems to have worked. No problems as of yet. I do still have the EXCEPTIONALLY LONG login to windows 7 when logging into the domain. And none of my drive maps or printers are showing up.5-15minutes I would guess at the black screen showing the build info. Josh
February 27th, 2009 12:34am

The symptoms you describe are almost always caused bymis-configured DNS settings. XP will work if the DNS settings are wrong. It won't work efficiently, but it will work. Vista and Windows 7 are less tolerant when it comes to DNS. Can you post the results of ipconfig /allKerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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February 27th, 2009 4:24am

Thread isn't dead, just got sidetracked with more pressing issues.Will update again by end of week hopefully. Really want to figure out the long login to Win7.... Irritating when I want to show it to someone, and have to ask them to come back in 15-20 minutes, lol. Josh
March 4th, 2009 1:47am

Take your time. Make sure you double check your DNS settings on the Windows 7 machine as Kerry suggested. Also, are you running any login scripts or such? You may want to make sure that there is not an entry that is causing your Windows 7 to stall and timeout. Give your login a try sans login scripts. If your domain admins are running any older GPOs that dont take Windows 7 settings into account, that could also cause you slooooowwwwww logins. Is there anything or any messages when you are waiting? Messages such as Running startup scripts, etc?
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March 4th, 2009 8:53am

Darien,The Dual NIC solution seems to have worked. No problems as of yet. I do still have the EXCEPTIONALLY LONG login to windows 7 when logging into the domain. And none of my drive maps or printers are showing up.5-15minutes I would guess at the black screen showing the build info. Josh This still sounds like a DNS problem. Can you post the results of ipconfig /allKerry Brown MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
April 1st, 2009 3:06am

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