question about CALs licenses
hello, i am trying to understand this licensing scam so i can get an idea of what i'll have to spend:http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/pricing.aspxhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-faq.aspxI have some questions though:1.) If server is set up for DSN+DHCP and i only have 5 CALs, it won't assign an IP address for the 6th PC on the network?2.) if i buy 5 TS licenses, that means 5 devices can connect at any given time, or just 5 devices period?Thanks
March 23rd, 2008 8:20pm

Because licensing is so important, it would be better to ask the licensing specialists at Microsoft to answer this question instead of relying on an answer froma post like this. You wouldn't want to be liable based on information that may be wrong even though it was presented with the best intentions. There is a help menu selection on the left column of www.microsoft.com/licensing. tgc
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March 23rd, 2008 10:45pm

Thanks tim, I will read that link you provided, but still... i think my questions are pretty straight-forward and somebody knows, please let me know.As with almost all info in the world, i realize that internet posts come "as is" with no guarantee of being correct. If I'm stupid enough to believe everything i see/read without taking the source into consideration, then i would pretty much fail at life, not to mention fail at being an IT admin.
March 24th, 2008 2:12am

Hello, For licensing questions, please call 1-800-426-9400 (select option 4), Monday through Friday, 6:00 A.M. to 5:30 P.M. (PST) to speak directly to a Microsoft licensing specialist. Worldwide customers can use the Guide to Worldwide Microsoft Licensing Sites http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/index/worldwide.asp to find contact information in their locations. I hope this helps. Best wishes --------------Morgan Che
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March 24th, 2008 1:06pm

Wow Morgan, since you are a moderator, you mark your own reply as the "answer"? I started this question and I specifically did NOT mark your reply as an answer because it is neither helpful nor does it answer in any way the simple question I asked. I am Unmarking your reply.If anyone actually does have an answer please feel free to reply.
March 30th, 2008 9:43pm

I might be wrong since this is the internet but: 1) You'll get as many IP's as you have devices requesting them. 2) If you have five TS licenses you can connect five devices simultaneosly if you have device cals. If you have six devices five can connect, one has to wait for another to disconnect not to violate your license agreement. I still recommend a quick check with your software partner or Microsoft directly to be sure to get it right.
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April 2nd, 2008 10:23am

Question 1) DHCP will hand out addresses to as many devices as you want, no licenses required. Question 2)Terminal Server Client Access Licenses come in two forms, per User or per Device. Per user is one license for each user with the right to login to the terminal server remotely. Per device is the same thing but based on the device connecting. These licenses are NOT based on concurrent connections. So if you buy 5 TS device CALs and plan on having 20 or so computers login to the terminal server just not more than 5 at a time you'll be violating your agreement. How it works in 2003 is that each machine connecting grabs a license but the licenses have expiration dates built into them so that if a machine gets decomissioned the license becomes available again. After 60 or 90 days...not sure which off the top of my head. Morgan had the best answer to this question though and that is to call Microsoft Licensing and let them know just what you plan on doing. They'll tell you exactly what you need. Licensing can get very confusing so just make the call.
April 4th, 2008 12:00am

I agree with ComfortablySad about Morgan's reply. Getting the information directly from a licensing expert is much better than relying on answers here. I, like Morgan, work for Microsoft. I've dealt with both these questions many times, but I still defer because my answers are only based on MY understanding. And, based on that, ComfortablySad is correct on the terminal services CAL but incorrect on the DHCP statement. On page 6 of the current Product Use Rights, it says: "Except as outlined in these product use rights, all Server Operating System products require a CAL for each user or device that accesses the server software. There are two types of CALs: Device CALs and User CALs. You may license in either mode but that selection must be determined at the time the license is acquired or Software Assurance is renewed." So, since requesting an IP address is accessing the server software, that means that each device or user requires a CAL. Again, as you can see all the confusion around this, your absolute best bet is to call the number in Morgan's answer. tgc
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April 4th, 2008 3:31am

Thank you everyone, for helping me.I appreciate the direct answers, yet I still find it unnecessary for you all to put disclaimers in every post before you will answer a question.If anybody makes an important decision with facts found on the internet (or the phone) (or the TV) (or the news paper) (or from a friend) (or from a collegue) (or from a [insert anything here]),without doing fact checking, they are an idiot.You all are not my mother, and I bet most of the people on this site are fully capable of making an informed decision, so all the disclaimers are really unnecessary for an internet forum.Still I thank you for your help.
April 9th, 2008 3:26am

You are quite welcome. The view from this side, though, is that we live in a quite litigious society. We can't make any statements that might be interpreted as commitments by Microsoft. Maybe you won't do that, but you that there will be a few people out there. So, we are not trying to be your mother; we are simply covering our tails. tgc
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April 9th, 2008 3:52am

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