Adding a second DC
Hi. I am new to server software and I'm currently studying a few key text books while operating a small domain. Server 2008 R2 Trial with x1 XP pro and x1 Vista workstations.
I apologise in advance if this a silly question, but I'm learning.
The best practice analyser for the Active Directory Domain Services suggests I should have one or more controllers in case of failure, which I agree. I would also like to do this for the experience.
Every instruction I have read on how to intsall a second controller states I should start DCPROMO.exe. When I do this I only get an option to delete my current controller. There is no option to add. So, I take you can't create two controllers on a
single machine? This backup would be on a second machine and I would run DCPROMO.exe there? Is this true for child domains too?
Any advice is welcome, thanks.
August 11th, 2010 6:20pm
you cant promote the same installation twice, so yes, if the installation you run dcpromo on is already promoted, you only get the option to demote/remove domain. depending on your hardware, you can virtualize and have multiple installations on one physical
hardware. that way you can have multiple installations (and thus promote 2 virtual machines) even with just one physical machine (which helps against corrupted installation of one domain controller but doesnt help against hardware failure)
edit: the virtualisation solution in w2k8 r2 is the role hyper-v (requires x64 cpu and hardware virtualisation + data execution prevention, which have to be enabled in the bios)
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August 11th, 2010 6:26pm
No, unless you are virtualizing other systems, you can only have 1
domain controller on a system. The recommendation is to have domain
controllers on different hardware and geographic locations. Each child
domain also needs to have a DC on a separate system (virtualized or
physical).
-- Mike Burr
August 11th, 2010 6:33pm
To install a second domain contoller, you should have another server and then you use DCPROMO.exe command. Installing two domain controllers on a single physical machine can be made by the use of hyperV. It is also the same thing for child domains too.
If you want to install a second DC, I recommend to you to have a look on the FSMO rules and the best practises for assigning FSMO rules.
This is a link where you can find the best practises for assigning the FSMO rules:
http://windowsdevcenter.com/pub/a/windows/2004/06/15/fsmo.html
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August 11th, 2010 6:46pm
Where do you see the “delete my current controller”
message?
First join a new Windows 2008 server in the existing
domain and use the following procedure:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee797379(CS.10).aspx
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August 11th, 2010 10:45pm
Hello,
a DC can only run once for a domain. You have to use a second machine to install it as additional DC in the existing domain. For testing it is always a good idea to use Virtual machines instead physical.
Virtual PC is one option to use. or any other virtual software vendors. A lot of this software is available as free version.Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties or guarantees , and confers no rights.
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August 11th, 2010 11:42pm
Hi. Thanks again everyone for your help. I'm following Jonathan Hassell's book among others and I just couldn't see the answer to that.
In regard your question Santhosh about where I see the delete option; if I run DCPROMO on my current server it provides only a window with a tick box which offers to delete the domain controller because it's the last in the domain - I guess being the
only controller.
Thanks for those who suggested Virtual options but on trying Hyper V it turns out my Poweredge's early Xeon 2.8GHz CPUs don't support it. But it was a free server.
I've checked out the FSMO rules and will certainly keep that in mind if I do decide to trial a 2nd server.
Again, thanks everyone for taking the time to explain- it is great for us beginners.
August 12th, 2010 12:03am
You're welcome. If you need other help, you are welcome.
Best regards.
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August 12th, 2010 12:20am
If you run DCPROMO again from a Domain Controller you will see that option.
You need to run DCPROMO from the second server to create a new DC.
Here are the high level steps:
1.
Install a new server and join it to the existing AD Domain
2.
Perform DCPROMO on the new server and select “additional DC for the existing domain” option.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee797379(CS.10).aspx
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August 12th, 2010 11:51pm