eMails are going to Junk/Spam
Cannot figure out why "some" of our eMails are being filtered by Hotmail/Yahoo + probably by others. We host our Exchange Server, Registrar is GoDaddy and the ISP is Verizon.
Let's see if anybody can come up with a suggestion and/or if what we are doing will solve the problem.
Exchange Server Name: mail.zenRx.org IP Address: 72.85.245.162
AOL's reverse DNS Lookup was occasionally was giving DXDOMAIN
http://postmaster.aol.com/cgi-bin/plugh/rdns.pl One out of six or so, but lateley it is "Success", but the outgoing mail still looks like spam.
We know that the PTR Record with Verizon and SPF record with GoDaddy is Perfect.
Go Daddy said, Verizon should create a Reverse DNS Record; and we are waiting for them to create the record and implement the change on Monday Morning.
Can somebody tell me that the Reverse DNS Record is the right solution, and how come things have changed all of a sudden. Everything has been working OK for a while and suddenly outgoing mails are not perfect. Thanks for replies and suggestions.
Travis McGee
July 24th, 2010 9:19pm
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:19:36 +0000, Travis McGee wrote:
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>Cannot figure out why "some" of our eMails are being filtered by Hotmail/Yahoo + probably by others. We host our Exchange Server, Registrar is GoDaddy and the ISP is Verizon.
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>Let's see if anybody can come up with a suggestion and/or if what we are doing will solve the problem.
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>Exchange Server Name: mail.zenRx.org IP Address: 72.85.245.162
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>AOL's reverse DNS Lookup was occasionally was giving DXDOMAIN http://postmaster.aol.com/cgi-bin/plugh/rdns.pl One out of six or so, but lateley it is "Success", but the outgoing mail still looks like spam.
DXDOMAIN??? Did you mean NXDOMAIN? The only time that's really
meaningful is when the error is returned from an authoritative DNS
(ns1.verizon.net, for example). One can only assume that the web page
is using a reliable DNS resolver.
>We know that the PTR Record with Verizon and SPF record with GoDaddy is Perfect.
Why use the "ptr:" mechanism? If 72.85.245.162 is your outflow server
and that's the only machine you authorize to sen e-mail on behalf of
your domain then the SPF TXT record can be shortenened to just:
v=spf1 ip4:72.85.245.162 -all
>Go Daddy said, Verizon should create a Reverse DNS Record; and we are waiting for them to create the record and implement the change on Monday Morning.
There's already a correct PTR record for that IP address.
>Can somebody tell me that the Reverse DNS Record is the right solution, and how come things have changed all of a sudden. Everything has been working OK for a while and suddenly outgoing mails are not perfect. Thanks for replies and suggestions.
Are you thinking that the only reasons why an e-mail might be
categorized as spam is that DNS records are incorrect? Far from it.
Message content is what defines spam. Everything else is useful in
determining the reputation of the sender, which should be used in the
overall assessment of the message's "spamminess". So, perhaps it's the
message contents that are the problem?
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Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
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July 25th, 2010 12:19am
Hi,
As per Mr. Rich Matheisen check your MX records or even you dont have configured your MX records or you dont have than try to use smart host for delivery of your emails.
Hope this will help you.
Regards.
Shafaquat Ali.M.C.I.T.P Exchange 2007/2010, M.C.I.T.P Windows Server 2008, M.C.T.S OCS Server 2007 R2, Phone: +923008210320
July 25th, 2010 9:31pm
I have to reinterate Rich's feedback. Make sure that you have a good SPF record created. For some receiving systems, the PTR record is very important. If the IP address from which you receive mail does not have a PTR record, then they may
reject your e-mail.
If the messages are only rejected part of the time, this is probably because other factors (besides a missing PTR or SPF record) are contributing to the rejecting. The missing SPF record might put much of your mail over the rejection threshold.
Microsoft has a great tool for helping you analyze some of the factors that would cause mail to be rejected. Visit the Exchange Connectivity Analyzer:
https://www.testexchangeconnectivity.com/Default.aspx
Perform the Outbound SMTP E-mail test.Jim McBee - Blog - http://mostlyexchange.blogspot.com
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July 25th, 2010 10:28pm
Euroka Moment - Found the reason
Still don't know what that occosional DXDOMAIN error was from postmaster.aol.com Reverse DNS Check thingy....(which I don't get anymore)
but, when I was testing the outgoing messages, I was typing in the Subject/Message things like "aaaaa", "test", "testing", "kjljlkj" stuff quickly. Looks like both Hotmail and Yahoo are filtering on the content and if the message body or subject looks
gibberish, they send them to Junk Mail folder.
I always used to test stuff like this and it was consistent in the past [not going to junk] ... this must be a new filter that they implemented, I guess.
Travis McGee
July 30th, 2010 11:12pm
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:12:37 +0000, Travis McGee wrote:
>Euroka Moment - Found the reason
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>Still don't know what that occosional DXDOMAIN error was from postmaster.aol.com Reverse DNS Check thingy....(which I don't get anymore)
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>but, when I was testing the outgoing messages, I was typing in the Subject/Message things like "aaaaa", "test", "testing", "kjljlkj" stuff quickly. Looks like both Hotmail and Yahoo are filtering on the content and if the message body or subject looks
gibberish, they send them to Junk Mail folder.
That's what I suggested on the 24th in the last paragraph of my answer
to your post.
>I always used to test stuff like this and it was consistent in the past [not going to junk] ... this must be a new filter that they implemented, I guess.
Statistical filters are pretty effective at picking up message
contents like that. Use only a few words in the message and you may
find that they're "guilty" words. Add more text and you'll add more
"innocent" words to the message. When there are more innocent words
(with scores that rank them as very likely to be unused in most spam)
in the message the probability of the message being spam is decreased.
This is, of course, a very simplified explanation of how, say, a
Bayesian filter works.
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Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
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July 31st, 2010 2:41am