using sharepoint internet as intranet
Hi ,I wanted to know that can we use the sharepoint which is installed as internet for working as intranet,ie i want to know that can we have out team site,project site on the sharepoint installation which is deployed as internet site.Also i would like to know that is the client access license per web application or is it sharepoint as a whole and can we select ceratin features of enterprise and then pay for it and not buying cal for all the enterprise features.ThanksSid
March 9th, 2010 7:55pm

Thanks Avinash , That info was useful..tell me that can we use the sahrepoint setup that is for the internet site and add some web applications and then use those web aplications for internal purpose and then paying for the enterprise features that are active on the web apps ...i just want to get the thing cleared that do we need a separate server and then install moss on that server which we will be using for the intranet site or we can use the same server that has moss installed and then create new web apps and then use those web apps for intranet purpose.And also are the CAL are based on the number of web applications where we have the features activated or it's just one time pay for any number of web applications and can we purchase license for specific features like we need to use ifopath forms so can we pay for just infopath forms and not for other features like bdc etc.ThanksSid
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March 9th, 2010 8:51pm

> That info was useful..t It's also completely incorrect information. The official rule is that ALL users who can access a MOSS 2007 Enterprise version site must have both Standard and Enterprise CALs. It is *possible* (not likely but possible) to get Microsoft's permission to only require Standard CALs for some users, but in order to get that permission you need to PROVE that it is absolutely impossible for those users to access ANY Enterprise only functionality. To prove this you need to have made software additions that block those users for any such access. While some Microsoft offices will accept a fairly low level of proof, it is also known that other Microsoft offices are extremely tough on this and will not give any such dispensation - the Microsoft UK offices are known to be very unwilling to accept anything but a total block on all Enterprise functionality before they will give you permission to have "mixed" CALs for your users. Microsoft Offices as I say vary from country to country and even from Office to Office in this and it is probably easier to get such dispensation if you have 50,000 users in total than if you have 1,000 (as the revenue from even 20% of 50,000 users is not something a local office would be likely to want to miss out on. If you intend having a mixed installation with only some users having both Std and Ent CALs and you do not get written permission for this from a Microsoft Office, you will be in breach of the license regulations and the consequences for your company could be very serious. ------------ Note too that even this is wrong > You need to pay enterprise CAL's for users using enterprise features and same thing for Standard CAL's because the rule is Standard MOSS 2007 = Std CALs; Enterprise MOSS 2007 = Std PLUS Ent CALS. Look at the prices of the CALs and you will see why. Enterprise would only cost more than Standard if you needed both sets of CALs. Sorry, but Avinash doesn't know what he is talking about and he should stop posting about licensing issues.FAQ sites: (SP 2010) http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com; (v3) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com and (WSS 2.0) http://wssv2faq.mindsharp.com Complete Book Lists (incl. foreign language) on each site.
March 9th, 2010 9:50pm

Mike Pardon my ignorance, I could have explained much better. Sorry about that. So when you have Site collection A and Site Collection B. If we have enterprise features turned OFF on Site Collection A from site settings and Enterprise features turned ON on Site collection B and I have specific user for Site Collection A and B, do I still need pay enterprise CALS for all user including users accessing Site Collection A with no enterprise features? or Do I just pay for enterprise CALs (plus Standard CAL's) for user of Site Collection B? Do i need to get specific permission for Microsoft in this scenario?
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March 10th, 2010 12:09am

Avinash,That's what i wanted to know...Mike can you also please tell that do we need a separate server and then install moss on that server which we will be using for the intranet site or we can use the same server that has moss installed and then create new web apps and then use those web apps for intranet purpose.ThanksSid
March 10th, 2010 2:19am

Trying to answer both questions.1. I can't tell Microsoft anything. It's up to you to contact your local Microsoft office and ask them to specify what they require before they will allow you to only have Enterprise CALs for some of your people. Get it in writing so that if you fulfil what they say, you will be covered for licensing reasons. 2. I doubt whether there is a simple switch for turning off Enterprise features.While you can turn off certain specific Enterprise features in CA there will still be some functions which are Enterprise only which can't be turned off so easily. (If it were so easy many UK companies who decided it would cost too much to follow MS UK's rules would have done so) The only way to ensure that NO (absolutely NO - which is the official rule) Enterprise only functions can possibly be used is to install Standard (it's the same installation but you use a Standard key). (You can't back from Enterprise to Standard either)So, having two *completely different* farms not sharing the same content and config databases would be one way of solving the problem - at the cost of needing to support 2 farms and having to find a way to duplicate data. P.S. Site collections: note the rule is access to a MOSS system. If they access a MOSS system theyofficially need both CALs. Again the key thing is that it's not so simple to have a Site Collection that uses absolutely no Enterprise function. The other thing is that even then, how do ensure users use only that Site Collection? If they do anything like Create (and that is just an example - there are many more things) they are accessing functionality of the MOSS system not just of the Site Collection and if the MOSS system is Enterprise, they need Std + Enterprise CALs. FAQ sites: (SP 2010) http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com; (v3) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com and (WSS 2.0) http://wssv2faq.mindsharp.com Complete Book Lists (incl. foreign language) on each site.
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March 10th, 2010 6:48pm

First, please read some official documents on licensing: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/sharepointserver/fx101865111033.aspx http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/sharepointserver/HA101655351033.aspx Then, please contact local sales.
March 11th, 2010 10:58am

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