SCOM 2007 R2 manage agent Vs Un-managed  agents
Agentless is the best option. It is easy to setup. First configure a server to act as a proxy. This server's resources will be used for monitoring the agentless device http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh264858.aspx Here are the steps http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc950517.aspx This will help is setting up agentless devices Regards, Dhanraj
November 21st, 2011 4:00pm

Have to note that agent based monitoring has much more possibilities and gives much better insight into the monitored servers. Of course ping is nice but if you want to keep it that basic, is scom the best product for that? For the very simple basics you can also find free stuff for it. SCOM is more suited for a bit better and extensive monitoring of machines. all the basic stuff of course (availability, services, cpu, memory, disk and those kind of things) and also much deeper monitoring of components (IIS/SQL/AD/EXchange/sharepoint/dns/ and so on). Alerting, health states and performance views and reports on all of it. When monitoring across a slow wan i would definiately install an agent on the monitored entity. otherwise your monitoring will get too many time-outs.Bob Cornelissen - BICTT (My BICTT Blog) - Microsoft Community Contributor 2011 Recipient
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November 24th, 2011 11:54pm

Have to note that agent based monitoring has much more possibilities and gives much better insight into the monitored servers. Of course ping is nice but if you want to keep it that basic, is scom the best product for that? For the very simple basics you can also find free stuff for it. SCOM is more suited for a bit better and extensive monitoring of machines. all the basic stuff of course (availability, services, cpu, memory, disk and those kind of things) and also much deeper monitoring of components (IIS/SQL/AD/EXchange/sharepoint/dns/ and so on). Alerting, health states and performance views and reports on all of it. When monitoring across a slow wan i would definiately install an agent on the monitored entity. otherwise your monitoring will get too many time-outs.Bob Cornelissen - BICTT (My BICTT Blog) - Microsoft Community Contributor 2011 Recipient
November 25th, 2011 3:32pm

Hi, i want to know what is different between SCOM 2007 R2 manage and unmange agent. Santosh Dharamsale
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November 26th, 2011 6:36am

There is a concept for agent managed and agentless managed. Agentless managed devices use the agents of the hosts that they are assigned to. These have limited monitoring capabilities. There are a few management packs that do not support agentless managed agents. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb432144.aspx This URL should help with the difference http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc950517.aspx This is a detailed one for agentless.Regards, Dhanraj
November 26th, 2011 6:49am

Thanks, but what is the different ? which one has more option and how easy to configure? i have two different domains in different location but connected over WAN limited bandwidth so primary domain server i will go with agent and secondary domain machines which one is good. Santosh Dharamsale
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November 26th, 2011 7:01am

Hi, The following monitoring scenarios are possible with agentless management: State monitoring Service discovery Performance collection (Windows and script generated) Internal service monitoring events Script execution (including varsets) Heartbeat (ping) Event collection (Windows event log, internally generated, and script generated) If you have critical servers like SQL, AD and any other such applicaiton servers, it is recommended to go for an agent based approach. If there are only a few servers it is ok to go with agent monitoring using a certificate based approach.Regards, Dhanraj
November 26th, 2011 7:14am

We want to monitor just Ping and live of few servers and few with services....Santosh Dharamsale
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November 26th, 2011 7:17am

Agentless is the best option. It is easy to setup. First configure a server to act as a proxy. This server's resources will be used for monitoring the agentless device http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh264858.aspx Here are the steps http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc950517.aspx This will help is setting up agentless devices Regards, Dhanraj
November 26th, 2011 7:22am

Hi, it works with sql 2008 r2. but the scom setup wizard does not see it (it was created years ago...). when using the dbcreatewizard in the supporttools you will find that it does create the database(s) for you. ANd in scom setup you can select to not install the database if you have done so already. I would recommend sql 2008 r2, simply because you will also be preparing for scom 2012 as well that way (that one doesnt speak sql 2005 anymore). If you are installing this scom just as a test (because you are saying you are playing with an eval version of sql I am assuming this is test!) than you can do sql 2005 of course. If you are installing for a longer period, would just go for sql 2008 r2 and not to use an eval version (also if you plan on going.Bob Cornelissen - BICTT (My BICTT Blog) - Microsoft Community Contributor 2011 Recipient
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November 28th, 2011 10:12am

I installed SQL server 2008 R2 evl version but when i run prerequisite check No SQL server detected ? SCOM 2007 R2 support only SQl 2008 and 2005?Santosh Dharamsale
November 30th, 2011 11:16pm

Hi Santosh, is this related to the question in this thread? In any case. scom setup (2007 r2 version) does not recognise sql 2008 r2. You will have to create the database on the sql server with a tool called dbcreatewizard. It is on the cd in the support tools somewhere. Same for the datawarehouse database. All the rest is the same. Not sure it will like evaluation version of sql, but I havent tried that yet.Bob Cornelissen - BICTT (My BICTT Blog) - Microsoft Community Contributor 2011 Recipient
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December 1st, 2011 1:45am

Microsoft not recommend SQL server 2008 R2? Santosh Dharamsale
December 1st, 2011 2:05am

or shell i install SQL server 2005 ? Santosh Dharamsale
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December 1st, 2011 2:09am

Hi, it works with sql 2008 r2. but the scom setup wizard does not see it (it was created years ago...). when using the dbcreatewizard in the supporttools you will find that it does create the database(s) for you. ANd in scom setup you can select to not install the database if you have done so already. I would recommend sql 2008 r2, simply because you will also be preparing for scom 2012 as well that way (that one doesnt speak sql 2005 anymore). If you are installing this scom just as a test (because you are saying you are playing with an eval version of sql I am assuming this is test!) than you can do sql 2005 of course. If you are installing for a longer period, would just go for sql 2008 r2 and not to use an eval version (also if you plan on going.Bob Cornelissen - BICTT (My BICTT Blog) - Microsoft Community Contributor 2011 Recipient
December 1st, 2011 2:16am

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