SCE 2012?
Hey there folks! I see lots of news coming about SCOM 2012 and other SC products for 2012, but nothing for System Center Essentials. Can someone update us on this? Is there to be a SCE 2012, or is being renamed/rebranded, or ?? Just trying to figure out what I'm doing in the future, as to whether to stick to SCOM, or move to SCE, or ?? Thanks in advance! mpleaf
January 2nd, 2012 2:09pm

Hello Mpleaf, We have not yet provided an update or roadmap regarding SCE. As we move forward with the development of System Center 2012, we remain committed to providing a “right-sized” set of management tools for IT in the midmarket segment that makes it easy for these customers to set up and manage Hyper-V. We anticipate that details on our midmarket strategy will be released in the months ahead. We will be sure to communicate any updates through all regional marketing leads and channels as well as this discussion group. In the interim, Essentials 2010 remains an important and strategic management solution as part of Microsoft’s System Center family of IT systems management products allowing us to compete head-to-head with VMware in the midmarket segment. SCE 2010 is easy to deploy and provides customers a unified single console solution that enables proactive IT management of more physical and virtual Windows Servers than ever before. In FY12, SCE 2010 continues to play an important role for our customers and their Journey to the Cloud as part of the Managed Virtualization story for the mid-market segment. Hope it helps,Yog Li TechNet Community Support
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January 4th, 2012 2:05am

I too am wondering the same thing as mpleaf. While "we remain committed to providing a “right-sized” set of management tools for IT in the midmarket segment" sounds promising, it's still a shame not much is known about the future of SCE. I've put asside the budget for implementing it in 2012, but very similar to TMG, the fact that no roadmap exists/is provided is holding me back/making me look in other directions. I think I'm not alone in needing to think/plan ahead and not implementing something that will be discontined soon, Windows Essential Business Server comes to mind.
January 4th, 2012 11:47am

Thanks very much for the info!
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January 5th, 2012 5:39pm

I was considering purchasing Essentials with software assurance. But now I don’t know. When can we have a concrete answer? If I purchase Essentials with SA and Essentials goes the way of the dodo, what happens to my SA?
January 25th, 2012 2:41pm

Hello Mpleaf, We have not yet provided an update or roadmap regarding SCE. As we move forward with the development of System Center 2012, we remain committed to providing a “right-sized” set of management tools for IT in the midmarket segment that makes it easy for these customers to set up and manage Hyper-V. We anticipate that details on our midmarket strategy will be released in the months ahead. We will be sure to communicate any updates through all regional marketing leads and channels as well as this discussion group. In the interim, Essentials 2010 remains an important and strategic management solution as part of Microsoft’s System Center family of IT systems management products allowing us to compete head-to-head with VMware in the midmarket segment. SCE 2010 is easy to deploy and provides customers a unified single console solution that enables proactive IT management of more physical and virtual Windows Servers than ever before. In FY12, SCE 2010 continues to play an important role for our customers and their Journey to the Cloud as part of the Managed Virtualization story for the mid-market segment. Hope it helps, Yog Li TechNet Community Support G'day, What is the release date of System Center 2012? Will SCE 2010 still continue in the market even after System Center 2012 is launched? Will SCE and SCVMM be merged into the same product, come SC 2012? i.e. SCE+SCVMM=SCVMM 2012? Its a bit confusing as nowhere on MS website has MS mentioned about the replacement of SCE 2010. Thanks, Arvind
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January 26th, 2012 8:51am

Hi, are there any updates about the future of SCE ? Thanks
February 10th, 2012 3:22am

Hope that Microsoft just bundles the SC 2012 products into a smaller/cheaper suite. As it is now, Microsoft does not give proper support for SCE. It's like a ghetto app that does not get proper attention. Lots of hotfixes were published for SCOM that were never "backported" to SCE, for example. SCE 2010 doesn't support Dynamic Memory and never will, lagging behing SCVMM 2008 R2 SP1. It will even lag more after SCVMM 2012 and Hyper-V 3. We now have DPM for essentials (SCE Plus), but nothing is told about if users are able to move to DPM 2012, or if they are stuck with 2010. You install DPM 2010 and can't enter the correct licensing information, because it expects per OSE but SCE Plus is per Server. There is no roadmap, no information, no ongoing beta, etc. So, its a great time for Microsoft to clean up. Just make SCE a bundle of the officially supported apps, and light up licensing (license per server , limit to 50 servers, 500 clients). It's not that hard to figure out how to work with WSUS and SCOM console. Hell, even SCCM is not that hard.
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February 26th, 2012 12:54pm

Agreed ricdgr, SCE unfortunately doesn't get the same attention that the full SC suite of products does. I have found myself wishing many times that there was some upgrade path from SCE to the full SC suite, because of the specific limitations built in to SCE. I'm fine with the cap on how many clients and servers it can handle, but there are a lot of useful features that are available in SCOM, SCCM, and SCVMM that were stripped out in SCE. The only part that really seems to get equal treatment is the "Plus" in SCE Plus, since it just adds licensing for the full version of DPM, instead of squeezing some of the DPM functionality into the core SCE console and stripping other features out. With it being separate and the full product, we get all the appropriate patches and updates for DPM. Of course, now that DPM 2012 is no longer a separate product, I wouldn't be surprised if SA for SCE Plus licensing doesn't cover the upgrade to DPM 2012, and we'll be stuck on an older version and end up in the same boat, not getting updates that 2012 does. I was told by MS Support via chat on the day of the SC2012 announcement that SCE2010 licenses would be automatically upgraded to the SC 2012 suite licenses via software assurance, but since that date everything I've seen has been non-committal or seeming to backpedal from that statement. I guess we have to wait and see when SC2012 releases if they make any changes to our licensing for SCE2010 plus, or if they just ignore it and hope nobody notices.
February 28th, 2012 10:09am

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