SCCM 2012. Clients are assigned to Secondaries Sites.

Hello everybody,  we had SCCM 2007, we killed all virtual CCM machines and created new with WServer2008 R2 for SCCM2012. In to SCCM 2007 we had one Central Primary site and 7 Children PRIMARIES sites. Now we have 1 Primary Site and 7 secondaries(In logic reasons all new secondaries sites have same site code names as SCCM 2007 had for chidren sites). Now, when I try to join old PC(which one been in SCCM 2007) to domain it assign to secondary site with old site code name.

 I uninstalled client like:

C:\Windows\ccmsetup\ccmsetup.exe /uninstall,

and deleted  C:\Windows\ccmsetup, C:\Windows\ccm folders and C:\Windows\SMSCFG.INI file. 

I installed client and it again assigned to same secondary site.

Command : C:\Windows\ccmsetup\ccmsetup.exe  /SMSSITECODE=WCM(PrimarySiteCode) does not work, on the client Task manager/ processes

 "ccmsetup.exe" appears for 3-5 sec. and disappears. In admin console client type  is "YES", but I cannot contact with these machines.  On client Control

Panel\Configuration Manager-> General -  Assigned MP : is Secondary SiteCodeName, in Action Tab are only : Machine Policy Retrival &Evaluation Cycle and User Policy Retrival &Evaluation Cycle.

How to fix it? I cannot change it manually. I do not want to reimage all(400) computers. 

Thanks for any help.

February 15th, 2013 12:31am

Did you clean up Active Directory? Specifically, the System Management container?
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February 15th, 2013 2:36am

Yes, I did.

February 15th, 2013 3:20am

Ok, your command line is wrong. SMSSITECODE is not a parameter, it is a property: ccmsetup SMSSITECODE=WCM (no slash). Why are running it from the local ccmsetup directory though? That's probably left over from the 2007 client install making it not valid to install the 2012 client. Why aren't you using client push from the new site?
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February 15th, 2013 3:51am

I am using  client push from the new site. I used  \\cssc01\SMS_WCM\Client ccmsetup.exe /SMSSITECODE=WCM" (from primary site. "C:\Windows\ccmsetup\ccmsetup.exe /SMSSITECODE=WCM" is my mistake hereafter client  with wrong assignment was uninstalled. No problem with new computers.   



February 15th, 2013 4:58pm

Jason thank you for your reply, command "C:\Windows\ccmsetup\ccmsetup.exe SMSSITECODE=WCM" works, but PC still assigned to secondary site. Any ideas?
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February 15th, 2013 8:30pm

Clients cannot be, by definition, assigned to a secondary site. Resources without a client can be though.

Have you reviewed clientlocation.log on one of these clients?

February 15th, 2013 9:58pm

Yes, I know Clients cannot be, by definition, assigned to a secondary site. But it is. 

<![LOG[Getting Assigned Site]LOG]!><time="13:10:20.135+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2848" file="smsclientclass.cpp:990">
<![LOG[Autodiscover Site]LOG]!><time="13:10:22.042+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2848" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1386">
<![LOG[Client is set to use HTTPS when available. The current state is 224.]LOG]!><time="13:10:22.042+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2848" file="ccmutillib.cpp:362">
<![LOG[Got new site NCM]LOG]!><time="13:10:22.839+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2848" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1402">
<![LOG[Getting Assigned Site]LOG]!><time="13:10:39.276+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="552" file="smsclientclass.cpp:990">
<![LOG[Assigning client to site 'WCM']LOG]!><time="13:10:44.807+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="552" file="smsclientclass.cpp:502">
<![LOG[Attempting to assign client to WCM site that does not match assignment requirements]LOG]!><time="13:10:44.823+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="3" thread="552" file="smsclientclass.cpp:569">
<![LOG[Raising event:
[SMS_CodePage(437), SMS_LocaleID(1033)]
instance of SMS_RemoteClient_ClientNotAssigned
{
AttemptedSitecode = "WCM";
DateTime = "20130215191044.870000+000";
MachineName = "SPARES02";
ProcessID = 2160;
ThreadID = 552;
};
]LOG]!><time="13:10:44.886+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="552" file="event.cpp:729">
<![LOG[Failed to submit event to the Status Agent. Attempting to create pending event.]LOG]!><time="13:10:44.886+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="2" thread="552" file="event.cpp:751">
<![LOG[Raising pending event:
[SMS_CodePage(437), SMS_LocaleID(1033)]
instance of SMS_RemoteClient_ClientNotAssigned
{
AttemptedSitecode = "WCM";
DateTime = "20130215191044.870000+000";
MachineName = "SPARES02";
ProcessID = 2160;
ThreadID = 552;
};
]LOG]!><time="13:10:44.886+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="552" file="event.cpp:784">
<![LOG[Autodiscover Site]LOG]!><time="13:11:59.683+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3300" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1386">
<![LOG[Client is set to use HTTPS when available. The current state is 224.]LOG]!><time="13:11:59.683+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3300" file="ccmutillib.cpp:362">
<![LOG[Got new site NCM]LOG]!><time="13:11:59.824+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3300" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1402">
<![LOG[Assigning client to site 'NCM']LOG]!><time="13:12:05.527+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2688" file="smsclientclass.cpp:502">
<![LOG[Getting Assigned Site]LOG]!><time="13:12:05.605+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2688" file="smsclientclass.cpp:990">
<![LOG[Client is currently not assigned to any site]LOG]!><time="13:12:05.605+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2688" file="smsclientclass.cpp:604">
<![LOG[Removing client site assignments]LOG]!><time="13:12:05.605+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2688" file="smsclientclass.cpp:735">
<![LOG[Removed pending site assignment to 'WCM']LOG]!><time="13:12:05.745+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2688" file="smsclientclass.cpp:354">
<![LOG[Raising event:

instance of CCM_RemoteClient_Reassigned
{
DateTime = "20130215191205.917000+000";
LastAssignedSite = "";
NewAssignedSite = "NCM";
ProcessID = 4068;
ThreadID = 2688;
};
]LOG]!><time="13:12:05.917+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2688" file="event.cpp:729">
<![LOG[Client is now successfully assigned to site 'NCM']LOG]!><time="13:12:05.964+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2688" file="smsclientclass.cpp:685">
<![LOG[Discover Default MP]LOG]!><time="13:12:05.980+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2688" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1444">
<![LOG[Site Code is NCM; Management Point is http://nssc01.wacsd.com; MP HTTPS enabled = 0]LOG]!><time="13:12:06.183+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2688" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1487">
<![LOG[Setting current Management Point as http://nssc01.wacsd.com]LOG]!><time="13:12:06.183+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2688" file="smsclientclass.cpp:924">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:07.417+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2564" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:07.699+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2688" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Autodiscover Site]LOG]!><time="13:12:07.933+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3300" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1386">
<![LOG[Got new site NCM]LOG]!><time="13:12:07.980+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3300" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1402">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:08.339+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2564" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:08.355+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2952" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:08.636+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2952" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:09.371+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2528" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:10.558+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3656" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:11.121+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2528" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:11.339+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2564" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:13.089+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3656" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:13.324+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2580" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:13.417+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2528" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Assigning client to site 'NCM']LOG]!><time="13:12:14.449+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3300" file="smsclientclass.cpp:502">
<![LOG[Raising event:
[SMS_CodePage(437), SMS_LocaleID(1033)]
instance of SMS_RemoteClient_AssignmentUnchanged
{
ClientID = "GUID:F617C1A5-E62B-4DDE-ACE5-A47249BEBA21";
DateTime = "20130215191214.511000+000";
LastAssignedSite = "NCM";
MachineName = "SPARES02";
ProcessID = 2160;
SiteCode = "NCM";
ThreadID = 3300;
};
]LOG]!><time="13:12:14.558+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3300" file="event.cpp:729">
<![LOG[Discover Default MP]LOG]!><time="13:12:14.589+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3300" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1444">
<![LOG[Site Code is NCM; Management Point is http://nssc01.wacsd.com; MP HTTPS enabled = 0]LOG]!><time="13:12:14.652+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3300" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1487">
<![LOG[Setting current Management Point as http://nssc01.wacsd.com]LOG]!><time="13:12:14.652+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3300" file="smsclientclass.cpp:924">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion ="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0" /></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:30.652+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3656" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion ="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0" /></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:30.902+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2580" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion ="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0" /></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:31.511+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2580" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:32.386+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3656" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:32.761+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2580" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:32.871+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2580" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:32.980+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2580" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:33.246+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2952" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:33.308+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2952" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:33.402+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2952" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:33.574+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2952" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:33.933+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2952" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:34.355+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3656" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:34.839+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="3216" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:35.011+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2580" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:35.043+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2528" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:35.105+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2528" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:35.121+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2528" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:35.214+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2528" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:35.339+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2952" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:35.527+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2580" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:40.683+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2580" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">
<![LOG[Current Assigned Management Point is nssc01.wacsd.com with Version 7711 and Capabilities: <Capabilities SchemaVersion="1.0"><Property Name="SSLState" Value="0"/></Capabilities>]LOG]!><time="13:12:41.199+360" date="02-15-2013" component="ClientLocation" context="" type="1" thread="2580" file="smsclientclass.cpp:1165">


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February 15th, 2013 10:14pm

NCM is secondary site

February 15th, 2013 10:14pm

So, no answer??? No ideas???


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February 17th, 2013 6:29am

So, no answer??? No ideas???

If you need immediate help, you need to contact CSS.

As for the client assignment, from the log file above: "Assigning client to site 'WCM'"

What does the Control Panel applet say for assignment?

February 18th, 2013 10:39pm

On the client : "Currently assigned to site code: NCM". And I cannot change it manually.
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February 19th, 2013 4:40pm

I just fixed it. Just changed Registry Key.
February 20th, 2013 5:05pm

You must have had something else like a GPO assigning the site code because ConfigMgr will not and cannot assign a secondary site to a client for management.
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February 24th, 2013 11:45pm

Hi,

Whats the location of the GPO which assigns the site code.

I am having similar problem, we have a client with a CAS & 4 PS we wanted to assign some of the clients from PS1 to PS2 we were using SCCM 2012 R2 so i got to know that it has an option called reassign site which reassigns the client to another primary site.

now, if i reassigns a client to a new site it never takes the new site code.

we have not checked if GPO settings are assigning the site code.

Please, provide the details of GPO where these settings are present.

Thanks,

Pranay.

December 26th, 2013 2:00am

Hi,

Whats the location of the GPO which assigns the site code.

I am having similar problem, we have a client with a CAS & 4 PS we wanted to assign some of the clients from PS1 to PS2 we were using SCCM 2012 R2 so i got to know that it has an option called reassign site which reassigns the client to another primary site.

now, if i reassigns a client to a new site it never takes the new site code.

we have not checked if GPO settings are assigning the site code.

Please, provide the details of GPO where these settings are present.

Thanks,

Pranay.

here's a guide for the old GPO admin template method:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/configmgr/archive/2008/06/09/details-for-obtaining-100-configmgr-client-installation-reach.aspx

the templates are not built-in to Windows, so you would have to add them in (or somebody would have done so)

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December 26th, 2013 3:09am

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