SP 2010 forums that are available are listed here http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/sharepoint2010 In addition to not starting 2010 threads here, do not add 2010 questions to existing threads here and do not answer 2010 questions posted here. (I will try ONCE to split the thread - which sends the 2010 question and the rest of the thread to a 2010 forum - and if that doesn't work [Split is flaky], I will delete posts with such 2010 questions and if there are 2010 answers they will have to go too). Later: Some 2010 posts added to pre-2010 threads are impossible to split off from the pre-2010 thread because they assume everyone has read the earlier posts in that thread. In that case they are deleted as being off-topic (which they are). FAQ sites: (SP 2010) http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com; (v3) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com and (WSS 2.0) http://wssv2faq.mindsharp.com Complete Book Lists (incl. foreign language) on each site.

SP 2010 forums that are available are listed here . Does your trial to split the thread work? Please update the result in time.

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Mike, Is it possible to rename all the forums/sections to something that does not have "pre-SharePoint 2010" in the description. When you do a a search for something specific to SharePoint 2010, it brings up all the legacy topics and it takes too long to weed through them because these all have the string "SharePoint 2010" in the page content, a great deal of content that does not pertain to the new product. Best, Mike

> because these all have the string "SharePoint 2010" in the page content I presume this is the main reason for the request. The first thing to note is that if I ever had any influence with Microsoft this vanished for good when I lost my MVP status at the end of September 2010. The second is that although I had a lot of input in the names of the SharePoint 2010 forums (although I wasn't expecting there to be only four of them), the addition of "pre-SharePoint 2010" in the name of these forums here came as a surprise to me - a sign perhaps that my influence was waning long before the MVP drop. So I am not the right person to ask. Further points are that even with "pre-SharePoint 2010" in the forum names there are a steady number (ca 10 per weekday - one day last week there were 16) of SP 2010 posts to the pre-2010 forums (and those are only the ones I identify as such from the Titles; Text or nice people telling me in the thread that the programming function is 2010 only, so there are really more). So if anything I would like to see "NOT SP 2010" in the forum title (not that that would cut all the off-posts out but some surely). The main problem is that without an indication of the fact that the forums are not for SP 2010 questions there would be even more off-topic posts. For instance without that text in the forum name many more people would think that if they have a SP 2010 workflow question it must go to the SharePoint Workflow forum because there is no SharePoint 2010 Workflow forum (ditto for Search and at a pinch BDC/BCS even though BDC is pre-2010 only - and I'm sure there would be more than these). Try Sticky posts you may think. Well that doesn't work. I have had a sticky post at the top of the Accessibility forum saying that the forum is only for questions about accessibility *for the physically challenged* and despite that - and the fact that I've cleaned up that forum so that all the threads there *are* about that kind of accessibility - there continue to be almost daily posts there that have nothing to do with the topic of the forum. (Unlike other posts to wrong forums, those I delete rather than move because of the 3 things - name of forum; sticky post; existing posts all on topic - that indicate what the forum is for) So we are down to the question of whether we in the forum name make it easier for people posting to find the correct forum or whether we make it easier for people searching to find the right answers. You'll accept that given that choice as Moderator I'd prefer people to find the right forum. As for search, you could of course restrict your searches so that they only search the four SharePoint 2010 forums. I used in fact to use my test SP site as a set of pre-defined searches by creating a number of web pages using different Federated Searches. (2 columns / web parts per page turned out to be most useful - put each page in a doc lib and link to the page from the left-hand-column of the default site page) A long explanation but I hope informative even if not what you wanted to hear. Mike P.S. One idea might be to have the names as SharePoint 2007/2003 - General .... (etc.) Slightly unfair on the SPS 2001 and STS users but they have virtually gone. So if anyone with any influence at Microsoft is reading this they might consider that alternative. But in that case this should come first in the Title - not as a bracketed afterthought. SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

> because these all have the string "SharePoint 2010" in the page content I presume this is the main reason for the request. The first thing to note is that if I ever had any influence with Microsoft this vanished for good when I lost my MVP status at the end of September 2010. The second is that although I had a lot of input in the names of the SharePoint 2010 forums (although I wasn't expecting there to be only four of them), the addition of "pre-SharePoint 2010" in the name of these forums here came as a surprise to me - a sign perhaps that my influence was waning long before the MVP drop. So I am not the right person to ask. Further points are that even with "pre-SharePoint 2010" in the forum names there are a steady number (ca 10 per weekday - one day last week there were 16) of SP 2010 posts to the pre-2010 forums (and those are only the ones I identify as such from the Titles; Text or nice people telling me in the thread that the programming function is 2010 only, so there are really more). So if anything I would like to see "NOT SP 2010" in the forum title (not that that would cut all the off-posts out but some surely). The main problem is that without an indication of the fact that the forums are not for SP 2010 questions there would be even more off-topic posts. For instance without that text in the forum name many more people would think that if they have a SP 2010 workflow question it must go to the SharePoint Workflow forum because there is no SharePoint 2010 Workflow forum (ditto for Search and at a pinch BDC/BCS even though BDC is pre-2010 only - and I'm sure there would be more than these). Try Sticky posts you may think. Well that doesn't work. I have had a sticky post at the top of the Accessibility forum saying that the forum is only for questions about accessibility *for the physically challenged* and despite that - and the fact that I've cleaned up that forum so that all the threads there *are* about that kind of accessibility - there continue to be almost daily posts there that have nothing to do with the topic of the forum. (Unlike other posts to wrong forums, those I delete rather than move because of the 3 things - name of forum; sticky post; existing posts all on topic - that indicate what the forum is for) So we are down to the question of whether we in the forum name make it easier for people posting to find the correct forum or whether we make it easier for people searching to find the right answers. You'll accept that given that choice as Moderator I'd prefer people to find the right forum. As for search, you could of course restrict your searches so that they only search the four SharePoint 2010 forums. I used in fact to use my test SP site as a set of pre-defined searches by creating a number of web pages using different Federated Searches. (2 columns / web parts per page turned out to be most useful - put each page in a doc lib and link to the page from the left-hand-column of the default site page) A long explanation but I hope informative even if not what you wanted to hear. Mike SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

P.S. One idea might be to have the names as SharePoint 2007/2003 - General .... (etc.) Slightly unfair on the SPS 2001 and STS users but they have virtually gone. So if anyone with any influence at Microsoft is reading this they might consider that alternative. But in that case this should come first in the Title - not as a bracketed afterthought. This would work for me!

The SP2010 forums arent listed as "Technet monitored", meaning you a guaranteed a response in 2 days from a MS engineer if the community doesn't answer first. Getting the SP2010 forums listed might divert a few more posts into the correct forum.

> The SP2010 forums arent listed as "Technet monitored", meaning you a guaranteed a response in 2 days from a MS engineer if the community doesn't answer first. Getting the SP2010 forums listed might divert a few more posts into the correct forum. There are a couple of aspects to that. One is that - as you probably know, but others might not - "TechNet monitored" only means that people who have bought a TechNet contract (and use the correct login method) get their response within 2 days. All the rest of us don't. (In fact I suspect that only people with such a TechNet contract see any such "TechNet monitored" marking. Just as presumably only people with a MSDN contract - where the same rules apply - see a "MSDN monitored" marking.) The second point is that we've been here before long ago. There were lots of SharePoint newgroups (yes, newgroups not forums) and some of them were in the (then) "answer in 24 hours" TechNet/MSDN system and some weren't. This led to a mass of posts from me (MVPs were regarded as unofficial Moderators) asking for the people to post in the right forum for their question with the reply inevitably coming back that they would continue posting in the wrong newsgoup as it was TechNet/MSDN supported. Sound familiar? In those days I was still an MVP and so had some very small amount of influence but it was years before anything happened. So that leads to the third point. If anyone reading this does have any influence with Microsoft, could they please put in a request that the SP 2010 forums are included in the TechNet/MSDN monitored system? Here in comparison to the newsgroups I can at least move posts to the SP 2010 forums but it's getting rather frustrating as the numbers are increasing rapidly with maybe up to 20 a day weekdays and sometimes I've looked at My Forum Treads (where I have the pre-SP 2010 forums selected only) and the first four new posts I have seen have all been 2010 posts. -------------------- After all that, thanks for the comment. It explains perhaps why some MS Moderators here have answered 2010 questions (so they knew they were 2010 questions) here but didn't bother moving them to 2010 forums. This is unlike the apparent behaviour of MS and other Moderators in the 2010 forums who to judge from the moved posts I see here DO move 2007 posts from the 2010 forums. P.S. If you could say what you are doing when you see the "TechNet supported" tag, I could see if I (with no TechNet contract) can see it too. Mike SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

P.S. If you could say what you are doing when you see the "TechNet supported" tag, I could see if I (with no TechNet contract) can see it too. Mike When i was looking for support regearding using forefront for sharepoint i ran across this page: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/ms788697.aspx Perhaps it hasnt been updated but its certainly out there. Using this list and having a sharepoint problem led me here. the impression that i get is that sharepoint 2010 is less supported on technet, which i know is not true but there it is in black and white.

Thanks for that link. As you say every single one of the SharePoint (pre-2010 that is) forums that can be found via social.technet.microsoft.com is listed and of course none of the SP 2010 ones. I'll try the one contact I have left to see if anything can be done about this listing. I certainly intend continuing to move every SP 2010 post I find in a pre-SP 2010 forum because strictly speaking this list is only saying that the pre-SP 2010 products are the only SP products supported within this Technet support system. It is not saying to post SP 2010 questions there. However it is clear that this (and no doubt the equivalent MSDN page) is causing at least some people to post their SP 2010 questions to a pre-SP 2010 forum. I have no doubt there are several other Microsoft pages that do the same (some of which have not been updated since 2007 came out). Thanks for replying with this - interesting would be if the MSDN equivalent included the Knowledge Network forum (which is the only SharePoint forum that is only in social.msdn and not in social.technet) because that is a forum for a function that was dropped before MOSS 2007 was released! [Yes, I have tried to get rid of that forum. No I haven't succeeeded. So I just ignore it.] Mike Later: I've checked. The MSDN subscription does not include priority support in any SharePoint forum. Here is the list of the forums they support in that way: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/aa974230.aspx SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

Thanks for that link. As you say every single one of the SharePoint (pre-2010 that is) forums that can be found via social.technet.microsoft.com is listed and of course none of the SP 2010 ones. I'll try the one contact I have left to see if anything can be done about this listing. I certainly intend continuing to move every SP 2010 post I find in a pre-SP 2010 forum because strictly speaking this list is only saying that the pre-SP 2010 products are the only SP products supported within this Technet support system. It is not saying to post SP 2010 questions there. However it is clear that this (and no doubt the equivalent MSDN page) is causing at least some people to post their SP 2010 questions to a pre-SP 2010 forum. I have no doubt there are several other Microsoft pages that do the same (some of which have not been updated since 2007 came out). Thanks for replying with this - interesting would be if the MSDN equivalent included the Knowledge Network forum (which is the only SharePoint forum that is only in social.msdn and not in social.technet) because that is a forum for a function that was dropped before MOSS 2007 was released! [Yes, I have tried to get rid of that forum. No I haven't succeeeded. So I just ignore it.] MikeSP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters