How to make DR site in MOSS2007
Hi, i have one farm and data center now i need to create one another disaster recover site. can you provide me step that how can i do this throug MOSS2007. is applicable by Load balancer or other way..Hasan Jamal Siddiqui(MCTS),Share Point Application Developer,TCS
April 20th, 2012 1:18am

Hi Hasan, It's not as simple as providing steps for something like disaster recovery because we don't know everything about your environment and the tools at your disposal. There are many things to take into consideration such as expected recovery time, expected recovery point, latency, locations etc Start reading Joel Olsens article on High Availability & Disaster Recovery and if you have more specific questions relating to an issue you could present a clearer scenario to court responses. You should also be speaking to your infrastructure resources, sql resources if you're lucky enough to have any.Paul Turner http://redmanta.co.uk/blog Twitter: @RedMantaUK MCTS:WSS,MOSS,2010 MCITP:2010. Please remember to click "Propose As Answer" if a post solves your problem or "Vote As Helpful" if it was useful.
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April 20th, 2012 3:35am

Hi Paul, here i am single handling development and Admin and also infrastruction and sql database. so must be need i have developed this. i have to work on this link article http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/25946/Disaster-Recovery-Plan-In-MOSS-2007 but ist not syncronized. please tell me how to configure desaster recover with farm lavel with out do restor and backup all time.Hasan Jamal Siddiqui(MCTS),Share Point Application Developer,TCS
April 23rd, 2012 2:25am

Hi . I have one form where 4 server is envolved as Data Center Site(Load Balancing etc all is implemented thare). and one another Site Disaster recovery site as 4 server farm. here two form is individual working whats the problem is i have take backup form data center site and restore in disaster recovery site its manual. i need its occur auromatical .. how can i relate Farm to each other and first data base replicate to other farm data base. Hasan Jamal Siddiqui(MCTS),Share Point Application Developer,TCS
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April 25th, 2012 2:53am

To implement disaster recovery you need to first decide what type of disaster recovery you are looking for, Cold or warm. Then we need information about your 4 box farm ? Is it SQL clustered or mirrored ? Now are you using traditional bakup/restore mechanization or some tools ? Based on above question i will provide you the recommendation...Feel free to visit my blog for any queries http://prarambhnitintiwari.blogspot.in/
April 26th, 2012 6:46am

Thx Nitin, I need to know about 4 box farm. beacuse i need to usse farm topologye and uss only share point for disaster recovery not cluster and mirraring... kindly tell me which one is better in these 3 way.Hasan Jamal Siddiqui(MCTS),Share Point Application Developer,TCS
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April 26th, 2012 8:21am

Your Blog is SP2010 I need on Moss2007 Hasan Jamal Siddiqui(MCTS),Share Point Application Developer,TCS
April 27th, 2012 3:11am

Hi, If you're looking to use only SharePoint then your options are going to be limited to providing DR based on your last available backup. This is going to vary depending on your position and tools available to provided good backups. There are some references here for backup and restoring entire farm strategies using SharePoint 2007 http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc262412.aspxPaul Turner http://redmanta.co.uk/blog Twitter: @RedMantaUK MCTS:WSS,MOSS,2010 MCITP:2010. Please remember to click "Propose As Answer" if a post solves your problem or "Vote As Helpful" if it was useful.
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April 27th, 2012 3:17am

Its not help for me. can u sugges eme is it any possiblity to make by share point farm or any other way by share point we can make DR site.Hasan Jamal Siddiqui(MCTS),Share Point Application Developer,TCS
April 30th, 2012 8:26am

Hasan, before I attempt to answer and give some pointers, please can you take into mind two things; - The community is NOT here to do your work for you. Your sig says youre an MCTS and a developer, which takes some acument. The forums are staffed by community volunteers that help and contribute freely. Paul has provided a lot of links that have useful information, whereas youre using a fairly poorly written CodeProject article. Look at whats been posted.Your last post tells us that Pauls recent links arent of any use but you dont elaborate. Dont leave us to bnad our heads on a brick wall, advise whats presenting a problem or WHY theyre not useful and we can potentially help a lot more. Help us to help you. Based on the above, youre asking after SQL mirroring being picked up by SharePoint 2007, which Im afraid to say is a massive ask of the product. SQL database mirroring (assuming youre using a version of SQL Server that has this feature) will work fine if a fail-over is needed. SharePoint 2007 itself is generally not a "mirror-aware" product, in that it wont be aware if a failover in the data-centre has occured. If you upgrade to SharePoint 2010, than this awareness is included, but for 2007 enterprise, theres no way that I know of for any failover to be instantly recognised within SharePoint.Steven Andrews | SharePoint Professional | http://www.twitter.com/backpackerd00d | https://baron72.wordpress.com/
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April 30th, 2012 6:56pm

Thanks for suggestion Steven, I alwase fallow forume rules and about english and graammer might be some mistakes, and about codeproject link just i see only find thare farm backup and restore I was just post for overview not for suggestion to implenet this. and i had read all articale provided by Paul and i understand how to do this and i know how to take farm backup and restorte just i need to know how make live DR SIte which one reflect on rune time like Mirroring database and transactional database, i am not more knowldge about SQL dba so i need to know in the trems of MOSS2007 , Steeve is any posisblityies that I usse Share point 2007 Failiuerse database as DR site data base. Because here i am one persion to do the all performanse regarding development and administrative.Hasan Jamal Siddiqui(MCTS),Share Point Application Developer,TCS
May 1st, 2012 1:12am

Hi Hasan, After reading this thread, I guess, Are you looking for a "Failover" type of solution. Means, if Farm A fails, it has to automatically failover to Farm B which concurrently reflects the same content of Farm A Regards Xavier
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May 2nd, 2012 8:09am

Hi Ravi, yes right i need exact same solution. have you any information about this.Hasan Jamal Siddiqui(MCTS),Share Point Application Developer,TCS
May 2nd, 2012 8:36am

SQL Server can be configured to this but you're still going to have the problem with SharePoint 2007 being unawares of when a failover has occured, which is where your question is important. If you want failover information generally, SQL can be configured to do this. If you want SharePoint 2007 to be aware of that failover and to redirect to the new servers automatically, that's where you'll hit a product limitation.Steven Andrews | SharePoint Professional | http://www.twitter.com/backpackerd00d | https://baron72.wordpress.com/
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May 2nd, 2012 10:55am

Hi Hasan, Steven is correct and has given perfect points about SQL and SharePoint 2007. Remember, MOSS 2007 aware failover setup cannot be possible. So after failover, like SQL , it can not pass half done work, jobs to current active farm. I came across couple of client places having failover type setup which will failover between data centers, but active / passive setup is above load balancers of both the farms, actually away from both the data centers. SQL data mirrored to other data center, so the other data center data is concurrent. They have the setup only for Internet facing sites, as you know, it really cost more and you need high level network team to plan and setup. First of all, can you please come with what do you have and what is the exact requirement. You are saying, you need failover setup, how did you end up this option, what are the other options you considered and which are no good, because you have lot of other high availability options too. Recently, one of my client has setup like WFE1+APP1+SQL NODE1 are in DATA Center 1 and WFE2+APP2+SQL NODE2 are in DATA Center2. When the data center1 was under maintenance, SharePoint was up and running. Please let us know, if you need more details. Regards Xavier
May 2nd, 2012 11:09pm

Hi Xavier, Thax for information. My client ask me That I need DR site when Live data cntre fail automaticaly up Dr site up. its happen by load blanacer and backup will do weekily from Live Data center site to Dr site. but its happen by manualy weekly. he asked me implement as automaticaly back up and restore on run time means if ine item is insereted in Live D centre den insert otherr will be in DR site. i have worked in all step like failure database setup.mirrioring db,log shiping db but i am unable to find which one iss beeter. my client infrastructire is so high tech also lan bandwidth and no cost mater here. he need just automatic replication. so what i decide, just provide ur feed back, i have plan to create flaiure backup data base by MOss2007 and usse wfe2 for that and other one farm create for weekely backup and restore means failure backup (secondary database with one connected by WFE 2) have live data, is i am right or rong plz suggese me and also if i am fail to create failure setup then i will go for mirroring database lik transactional mirrioring databse. on my analysisi basis i have to ask client for infrstructure requrement then i will decide which one i fallow. Farm topology. Farm server information and server specification. Network topology, network bandwidth and network connectivity. Clock synchronization to all servers. How many instances of Central Administration (CA). How many software are installed on server (including MOSS2007 and service pack, third party tool, patches). How many service accounts are used for current farm. Authentication (windows Authentication /form based/single sign on). Timer job analyst is enabling in Sql server Database. Sql server Instance Name. For existing DR Servers: Farm topology. Farm server information and server specification. Network topology and network bandwidth. Clock synchronization to all servers How many instances of CA How many software are installed on server(including MOSS2007 and service pack, third party tool, patches) How many service accounts are used for current farm. Authentication(windows Authentication /form based/single sign on) Timer job analyst is enabling in Sql server Database. Sql server Instance Name. Xavier now i have 3 option 1 . failure backup by WFE1 or WFE 2 2. Transctinal Mirroring 3. Log Shiping here i have arrange tree team like Infersatructure team,IIS steam and also DB team and i am as Share point admin/devlopenet . just suggese me which one i adopte and why .if any other way i can do this please suggese.Hasan Jamal Siddiqui(MCTS),Share Point Application Developer,TCS
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May 3rd, 2012 1:51am

Hi Hasan, I could not understand most of your reply. Your say "if i am fail to create failure setup then i will go for mirroring database lik transactional mirrioring databse." Failover setup, you need database to be mirrored or log shipped to get latest data reflect in destination environment. Your say "1 . failure backup by WFE1 or WFE 2 " are you talking about STSADM backup / restore. However, Mirror or LOG shipping: you better discuss with your DBA team, because they know about your environment and they can suggest better available solution. Failover : Discuss with your Network / Infrastructure team to setup to balanced Active / Passive above load balancers of PROD farm and DR Farm. But still, i guess, you need to understand the problems related to " MOSS 2007 is not Failover aware" Regards Xavier
May 3rd, 2012 3:32am

Hi Xavier, I am working on it, i will update you after decide which one i fallow. Thx for coopration.Hasan Jamal Siddiqui(MCTS),Share Point Application Developer,TCS
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May 3rd, 2012 5:06am

Steven, Thanks for contribution. Hassan has asked answer of problem not speech on the problem. Show some curtsy in the communication, if you know the key point of solution then tried to explain here. Please dont make any crux here because this is public forum. All right mate. Cheers
May 3rd, 2012 10:59am

Hasan, Xavier had already explained you so many thing please dont mash up all of the information as bottleneck. Xavier thread is good you can go ahead and work with SQL admin/ network Guys. I am perty much sure it will help you Cheers mate Kamal
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May 3rd, 2012 11:11am

Steven, Thanks for contribution. Hassan has asked answer of problem not speech on the problem. Show some curtsy in the communication, if you know the key point of solution then tried to explain here. Please dont make any crux here because this is public forum. All right mate. Cheers Kamal, Since you've addressed me directly, I'll respond in kind. Are we reading the same thing? My communication was polite, explained a few things and answered the point specifically about SP2007 fail-over awareness. The Product doesn't have it. Xavier has also asked for clarification, from which he's provided a response you've proposed as an answer. If I intended a speech, it would be very clear. Asking a poster to explain why he's rejected provided answers and links isn't a speech is perfectly reasonable. I've moderated long enough to feel comfortable asking people I'm trying to help for a little clarity as it'll save everyone else in the thread some time. As explained in a pinned thread here that everyone seems to overlook. Your own efforts are a chide to me and an endorsement of Xavier's post. Ignoring the first, your second is the sort of activity we could do with more of on the forums.Steven Andrews | SharePoint Professional | http://www.twitter.com/backpackerd00d | https://baron72.wordpress.com/
May 3rd, 2012 11:31am

Hi Steven Andrews, Can you suggese me what i do because DBA team say me its tedeuse job to do by mirroring or log shiping so he denide to do by this method ... can we have any other option to do this. Hi Kamal Pandey, if have you experiance about DR site please guide me how to implement this. Hasan Jamal Siddiqui(MCTS),Share Point Application Developer,TCS
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May 4th, 2012 8:32am

Hasan, Your options for Log Shipping or Mirroring are not going to happen without the support from your DBA's as this is not controlled by the SharePoint interface or indeed the product itself. With those two options removed, your single available option is to backup as often as you can, and restore when required.Paul Turner http://redmanta.co.uk/blog Twitter: @RedMantaUK MCTS:WSS,MOSS,2010 MCITP:2010. Please remember to click "Propose As Answer" if a post solves your problem or "Vote As Helpful" if it was useful.
May 4th, 2012 8:39am

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