GPO Computer Setting for specific Computers and specific Group

Hi,

I got the following setup of our OUs. Company with 200+ employees, starting integrating AD with Policies.
Every Employee Group (Workgroup) has her own Computers. We are using Windows-Server 2008.

OU Setup:

OU Computers
-- OU WorkgroupA
-- OU WorkgroupB

OU Users
-- OU WorkgroupA
-- OU WorkgroupB

OU Computers contains sup-ous with computers in there.
OU Users contains sup-ous with Users and Usergroups in there.

So i created a Folder-Redirection GPO and linked to the Main-Ou "OU Users", Security Filtering is on default "Authenticated Users". This is working fine. All Users get the Redirection Rule on all PCs. (Only User-Specific Settings)

Now i want to create an GPO which allows a specific group to have admin rights on their Computers.
For example:

User "User1" from sup OU "OU WorkgroupB" (Under "OU Users") should be able to gain admin-rights on computers located in sup-ou "OU WorkgroupB" (Under "OU Computers").

So, i thinked and created the GPO with the admin-rights and linked them to the "OU WorkgroupB" under Computers. That doesn't work. i also tried to link them additionally to the OU Users.

I also tried to create a security-global group containing "User1" and added this group under the Scope of the gpo.

How should i create those GPO?

I hope somebody can help me/us.


June 19th, 2015 5:39pm

You do not need to target users, but computers' OU.  A Computer allows a user to gain access.

The only trouble is how do you identify someone's computer. How do you know James owns computer Comp1?  The only way I knot how to do this is to make them admins on their machines when the machines are build.

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June 19th, 2015 5:59pm

we want to have the following schema:

Group1 with all Users in there should be able to gain adminrights on every computergroup1. so if an employee in an office change his seat to an other workspace, he should be able to gain admin-rights aswell.
June 19th, 2015 6:07pm

Ok then, that is an easy setup (everyone is admin on every computer). Simply add Group1 to Local administrators and apply the GPO to the Computers OU. 
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June 19th, 2015 6:09pm

Hi

 You need to configure "Loopback processing mode" ,and  "merge"

Check details this article;

Loopback Processing Mode

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/2548.windows-server-understand-user-group-policy-loopback-processing-mode.aspx

June 19th, 2015 6:22pm

Nosh is correct that you will link this GPO to an OU containing computers. You can setup your GPO a few ways - most people use Group Policy Restricted Groups. Here is a guide on setting that up:

http://deployhappiness.com/managing-restricted-groups-with-group-policy/

After you've configured it, remember to log the user out and log them back in (your computer will also need to do a gpupdate). A restart will do both items.


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June 19th, 2015 6:23pm

i tried this. but the gpo is not applied, so no admin rights for my testuser..

got the following gpo:
Computer Configuration > Windows Settings > Security Settings > Restricted Groups > Added "Administrators" with Members: DOMAIN\Group1.

gpupdate on the testclient brings an error, that the new gpo cannot be found with an path locating to sysvol. but i can browse to this folder.

June 19th, 2015 6:24pm

Hi

 You need to configure "Loopback processing mode" ,and  "merge"

Check details this article;

Loopback Processing Mode


so, i simple have to enable this feature over all computers with an separated gpo?
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June 19th, 2015 6:29pm

You can use any GPO that applies to this OU and add the feature to it. No need for separate GPOs.
June 19th, 2015 6:42pm

Okay, i added the feature, but still - no admin rights...
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June 19th, 2015 7:08pm

Did you log out and back in? Also do a "gpoupdate /force". User settings are loaded at login
June 19th, 2015 7:10pm

i restartet the client.

gpupdate /force brings an error that he cant find the loppback-gpo..

loopback-gpo is linked to OU WorkgroupA under main OU Computers.
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June 19th, 2015 7:18pm

Ok so you need to fix the gpo then
June 19th, 2015 7:20pm

but how? i dont know how that error can be fixed..
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June 19th, 2015 7:34pm

If you can show the configuration of the GPO, someone can make sense, but I am not sure we can without much to work with.

June 19th, 2015 7:37pm

so, which information do you need?

output from gpresult /h in .html?
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June 19th, 2015 7:44pm

Couple of things.

1. GPO Settings. How is this GPO configured

2. output from gpresult /h in .html?

3. Error message from gpoupdate

4. Anything from log files that address the error

June 19th, 2015 7:46pm

is it possible to contact you private? because i cant post links/screenshots here..

thanks for your help!

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June 19th, 2015 7:56pm

I am sorry, I am just trying to help. I don't work for Microsoft Support or anything. If I was not about to head home, I would be glad to do that, But I am heading home for the weekend. you  can post screen shots by clicking this button, under your reply

June 19th, 2015 7:58pm

Couple of things.

1. GPO Settings. How is this GPO configured

2. output from gpresult /h in .html?

3. Error message from gpoupdate

4. Anything from log files that address the

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June 20th, 2015 11:13am

Hi

 seems id 1058 errors;

please check on this article;

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/1456.event-id-1058-group-policy-preprocessing-networking.aspx

and please run command on cmd "run as administrator",also reboot the computers which you already tested.And make for security filtering.

June 20th, 2015 11:43am

The strange thing is, all User-specific GPOs are applied. Only the Computer-Configuration GPOs aren't. Tested with different Test-VMs. 

With the Domain Administrator Account i'didnt get an Access Denied Error when trying gpresult /Scope Computer /v, but the GPO isn't applied..

Edit:
to verify it again, i tried to browse to the "failed" gpo, i can access it without problems.


  • Edited by Marcwa19197 Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:09 PM
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June 20th, 2015 12:05pm

double check for security filtering;

June 20th, 2015 12:16pm

Filtering is on "Authenticated Users", which should be all Computers and all Users, or not?

Edit:
Tried it with "Authenticated Users", "Domain-Computers", and the "Group" of my Testuser. Nothing resolves the error.


  • Edited by Marcwa19197 Saturday, June 20, 2015 1:08 PM
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June 20th, 2015 12:51pm

Here more Screenshots of our OU-Structure and GPO-Structure.

OU-Structure:

Every Workgroup has their own OUs, sperated by main ou "Computers" and "Users". In "Users" there are only sup-ous with Users and Usergroups, in "Computers" only sup-ous with Computers. (here my win7-testvm)

GPO-Structure:

Only GPO which are successfully applied are GPOs with User Configurations. (You see here the Folder Redirections GPO, which work as it should).

Over there you see the WSUS-GPO, which is not applied (Error from gpupdate shown posts below). If i delete the WSUS-GPO-Link, next error from gpoupdate is exactly the error shown below (Loopback-gpo not loaded.)

All of this GPOs use only Computer Configurations. So that is the problem i figured out: no GPO which is containing Computer Configurations are applied. ("WSUS", "cad local Admin" nor "Loopback")

June 20th, 2015 1:35pm

i think this problem is not loopback-processing related, because every gpo containing computer configurations are not applied. if i only use user configurations in gpos all is working..
June 20th, 2015 1:50pm

i think this problem is not loopback-processing related, because every gpo containing computer configurations are not applied. if i only use user configurations in gpos all is working..

You don't need Loopback processing at all for your scenario. (the earlier suggestion about Loopback, is wrong)

The setting you are trying to use, is a Computer Configuration setting, so, loopback is not necessary:
Computer Configuration > Windows Settings > Security Settings > Restricted Groups

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June 21st, 2015 12:10am

i think this problem is not loopback-processing related, because every gpo containing computer configurations are not applied. if i only use user configurations in gpos all is working..

Without some more detail, it's hard to confirm, but, it looks like your computers are having problems resolving/applying computer-targeted Domain GP.

Earlier, you mentioned:

gpupdate on the testclient brings an error, that the new gpo cannot be found with an path locating to sysvol. but i can browse to this folder.

This is abnormal. But, note that "you" can access because "you" are logged-in as "you". The computer does not log-in as "you", the computer logs in as "computer". Each domain computer has an account in the domain, and it is that computer account which is used to access the domain resources. Just as "UserDon" might not have access to a resource but "UserMarc" does have that access - it is also true that "CompDon" might have different access to "UserDon".

You should investigate and resolve why your computer accounts cannot access SYSVOL - until that problem is resolved, everything else is pointless.

June 21st, 2015 12:18am

i think this problem is not loopback-processing related, because every gpo containing computer configurations are not applied. if i only use user configurations in gpos all is working..

Without some more detail, it's hard to confirm, but, it looks like your computers are having problems resolving/applying computer-targeted Domain GP.

Earlier, you mentioned:

gpupdate on the testclient brings an error, that the new gpo cannot be found with an path locating to sysvol. but i can browse to this folder.

This is abnormal. But, note that "you" can access because "you" are logged-in as "you". The computer does not log-in as "you", the computer logs in as "computer". Each domain computer has an account in the domain, and it is that computer account which is used to access the domain resources. Just as "UserDon" might not have access to a resource but "UserMarc" does have that access - it is also true that "CompDon" might have different access to "UserDon".

You should investigate and resolve why your computer accounts cannot access SYSVOL - until that problem is resolved, everything else is poin

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June 21st, 2015 7:44am

Does the "Computer" use the SYSTEM Account? Because the SYSTEM account doenst have the right to "aplly group policy" if i check the "advanced" under the delegation tab.

June 21st, 2015 9:16am

Here some screeshots of the sysvol share permissions:

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June 21st, 2015 12:17pm

so, as i understand right:
1. Computer Configuration policies should applied if the computer is in the domain even a local user is logged in?
2. Which detail do you need to debug this kind of failure?
3. How can i check, if the Computer can access Sysvol? (Possible to try it with a local user account, if 1. is true?)

1. Yes
2. Check (elevated) gpresult /h, at the affected computer, for errors. You can also enable GP logging on the client computer, the steps vary, depending on the version of OS on the client computer.

Troubleshooting Group Policy Using Event Logs
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc749336(v=ws.10).aspx

Group Policy Debug Log Settings
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/4506.group-policy-debug-log-settings.aspx

3. on the client computer, download psexec from Microsoft.
launch an elevated CMD console. inside that CMD console, launch: psexec CMD -s -i
[this opens a new CMD console which is running as LocalSystem]
in this new CMD console, try to access the SYSVOL or other network resources.

You should also check that the DNS settings etc are correct, and look for related errors in the Windows event logs on the client computer.


June 21st, 2015 5:08pm

Does the "Computer" use the SYSTEM Account? Because the SYSTEM account doenst have the right to "aplly group policy" if i check the "advanced" under the delegation tab.

SYSTEM = it depends on where you run this check.

SYSTEM is not the same as LocalSystem (because LocalSystem is a local account and no other computers can reference some other computer's LocalSystem, because it's Local ;)

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June 21st, 2015 5:10pm

Here some screeshots of the sysvol share permissions:


this looks correct. I assume the child-folders & files are inheriting permissions?
June 21st, 2015 5:13pm

Here some screeshots of the sysvol share permissions:


this looks correct. I assume the child-folders & files are inheriting pe
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June 22nd, 2015 3:32am

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