Dear SharePoint users :)I hope someone can help me. May I know how to allow the designers to see the edit page option? I have turned on the approval option so the approver can approve; however, the designer isn’t given the access to the edit page option.The only way for them to see the edit page feature in order for them to correct content is to give everyone full control which is not what I wanted to do. 2nd question is how do I prevent the designers from publishing a page after they edited the Web page? They can choose to submit for approval as well as go ahead and publish the page for the time being. My desire solution is to just have them submit for approval so that I know what pages they made changes on. Thanks in advance,A little background of my question above, the page is not a document but Web pages. We have many authors who make changes on the fly and I would like to set an environment that can be controlled. My question maybe confusing as I said designers can't get in to edit because edit page is missing and then later I said how to prevent them from publishing (if they can't edit, how they could possibly submit for approval or even publish page). We have two types of Web pages, One are public pages, another are secure pages. When I turned on the approval feature, the designer can edit the first one but not the later one (the secure pages). And even when they edit the first one they can still publish it instead of submit for approval. I would like for them to have only one option which is submit for approval.

HiI am going to assume you are working with a publishing site?If you are using the out-of-box permissions and groups that are set up when the site was created, you should expect the following:Members Group -> Contributor Permissions -> can create and edit pages, but not approve themApprovers Group -> Approver Permissions -> can also edit pages but can approve them (publish) as well.Can you explain how you have separated your 'public' pages from you 'secure' pages? Do you have a separate subsite for each? If so, then the behaviour your are seeing may be due to different permissions being set on the two subsites.Hope that makes sense.Paul.

Hi Paul,Yes, it's publishing site. The member group was not given the option "edit page" under Site Actions, so it doesn't help the authors. So the only 3 options left are: 1) Approver, 2) Designer and 3) Full Control. These three will allow anyone to approve and publish, that is not what wanted either. We didn't use subsite to control two type of pages. Basically it's two different document libraries public and secure. The secure one contains codes placed in IIS manager and redirect users to login in page, user credetials have to be insync with another CDB before they can login. I'm not a developer so I may not use the right terms to explain this but it's not a subsite. I'm familiar with subsite. Regardless, when users log in to secure page with right credentials, it's still sharepoint page showing Site Actions on top but there isn't option for edit page.May I know where the Site Actions resides? Is there a way to set Site Actions in such that member see the edit page option? At this moment, when I login as full control level, I see -->Site Actions --> 1) Edit page --> 2) create site --> 3) Show editing tool bars and so on.... The approver and designer see similar things but lesser commands in Site Setting function.When I log in as member, I don't see Site Actions and that it doesn't allow me to edit any page...according you note above, Members Group can create and edit page but not approve and it's listed so on my group permission as well...but there isn't option under Site Actions. Where does Site Actions command sit?Thanks again, I appreciate your answer, Nitaya

Hi Nitaya,I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure your Members cannot see the Edit Page option on the site actions menu because they don't have the correct permissions to edit pages.Please go to Site Actions > People and Groups > Site Permissions and check the members group.Your members should have the checkbox "Contributor" in order to allow then to edit pages.If that doesn't work, go to your document library > settings > manage permissions.Make sure that the members group has contribute rights on the document library there too.Paul.

Hi Paul -I have figured this out. There is another group permission that allows author to edit page and publish option is absent with this permission, it's Hierachy Manager, that is. I just get to the secure folder and public folder and added this new group under Settings --> Document Library Settings --> Permission for this document libraries --> then add this new group.I feel like I know sharepoint abit more today. Thanks!Cheers..

Hmmm....People in the Hierarchy Managers group (by default) have the "Manage Hierarchies" level of access. This means that they manage permissions on your document library. (And indeed your site)I'm not sure that is what you really want to do.I would recommend trying to really fully understand how the permissions levels work before deciding on your solution. It sounds like you are assigning rights to people without thinking about the consequences that this might have.Of course, it's up to you in the end though!

Indeed these people are managers and work in the same group with me...I just tested it out and maybe I give them too much power unneccessary...well they used to have designer level, hierarchy manager is one down..but both aren't right either. I just want to give any permission level that allows them to have edit page option without having publish option but both were wrong. One has publish option and other can manage permission.Another question...On the Member group --> contribution level when you go to the site settings as a member level and then go to--> modify all site settings. Does this permission allow people in this group to see the "site administration" I would not think so, but why would I see "site administration" with delete site option as a member? I don't want any member to delete my site. The contribution seems work for me except when they see Site Administration --> Delete this site...If this happens by error, how do I fix this?Something isn't right..Thanks

If you are a member with default permissions, you should be able to see the Site Actions menu, but NOT the Site Settings page.This is what I would do.Create a new Publishing Site collection to test out. That way you know all the permissions settings are still set to their default values.Then compare the settings with you current site to the settings on your new site.

Just found out that there is a way to create a brand new permission level. This will certainly cater my need, good idea regarding the comparison suggestion. Thanks Paul.