Hi
I am testing Windows 10 tech preview and enterprise tech preview.Has anyone installed symantec or mcaffee or any other third party antivirus solutions? Please let me know with version numbers, thanks!
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Hi
I am testing Windows 10 tech preview and enterprise tech preview.Has anyone installed symantec or mcaffee or any other third party antivirus solutions? Please let me know with version numbers, thanks!
Hello,
I don't think so. I have searched but found nothing! Maybe you will not be able to install it. There is no antivirus available for Windows 10 righ
I tired to install the latest version of Symantec Endpoint protection (12.1.5337.5000) and it fails to install.
Hi, I just installed Avira Free Antivirus without problems.
Version 14.0.7.306
Teh App sote shows quite a bit of AV available. I woul think it would be for WIN10 right??
Does anyone know if installing another AV over defender will cause any conficts? We all know to not run 2 AV's at the same time :)
Bitdefender Internet Security 2014 & 2015 failed to installi installed Bitdefender antivirus free edition, and it work fine.
By seeing all the replies above we can conclude that:-
Anti-virus those who supports Windows 8 and Windows 7 might work sometimes. Not all but some.
Examples are:
Sometimes, from the above list, they might fail to install or may not work properly. However, you can check anyone of them. Atleast one from them should work somehow.
But Windows Developers already announced that "Unexpected PC crashes could damage or even delete your files, so you should back up everything. Some printers and other hardware might not work, and some software might not install or work correctly, including antivirus or security programs. You might also have trouble connecting to home or corporate networks. "
Installed McAfee VirusScan Enterprise 8.8 Patch 4 on Windows Technical Preview for Enterprise. The installation was flawless and the product updated normally. McAfee seems to work just a well as with Windows 7 and 8.1.
From the above replies it looks like majority of Anti-viruses works in Windows 10 Technical Preview. According the replies above, we can create a theory that
"Majority of Anti-viruses should work in Windows 10 Technical Preview but they may lack in their features"
Panda cloud is working fine :)
Mcafee has never worked well with windows :p
Not sure Norton ever has either ;)
http://www.tenforums.com/antivirus-firewalls-system-security/1988-free-antivirus-will-you-prefer-use-win-10-a.htmlHi
I am testing Windows 10 tech preview and enterprise tech preview.Has anyone installed symantec or mcaffee or any other third party antivirus solutions? Please let me know with version numbers, thanks!
Vipre Business Edition v7.0.5711 seems to install and work without issue. Just waiting on the replication of the proper polices to ensure that it went without a hitch. Will post if issues arise.
I tired to install the latest version of Symantec Endpoint protection (12.1.5337.5000) and it fails to install.
Hi,
I am Chetan Savade from Symantec Technical Support Team.
Apologize for the delay reply. Let me know if you need any assistance to install SEP 12.1 RU5 (12.1.5337.5000) version.
I got Symantec Endpoint (12.1.4013.4013) to install but it won't activate, probably need to wait for symantec to update
Hi,
I am Chetan Savade from Symantec Technical Support Team & Apologize for the deplay reply.
SEP does not update it's license over the internet. If it's unmanaged client see this article:
Licensing an unmanaged Windows client.
http://www.symantec.com/docs/HOWTO55368
Let me know if you need any assistance.
Best Regards,
Chetan
Hi
I am testing Windows 10 tech preview and enterprise tech preview.Has anyone installed symantec or mcaffee or any other third party antivirus solutions? Please let me know with version numbers, thanks!
ESET Endpoint Security working fine so far...
Scratch that...HIPS disabled - Communication failed with driver.
Will update when I find more info
I have tried Kaspersky Endpoint Security, and it did not work. It says it is not compatible.
Hi
I am testing Windows 10 tech preview and enterprise tech preview.Has anyone installed symantec or mcaffee or any other third party antivirus solutions? Please let me know with version numbers, thanks!
ESET Endpoint Security working fine so far...
Scratch that...HIPS disabled - Communication failed with driver.
Will update when I find more info
I am running McAfee All Access Total Protection so far no issues also running McAfee SafeKey
Why do you think you need 3rd party antivirus software for a preview version of Windows?
You do realize Windows 10 TP comes with Microsoft's anti-malware package included, right?
Knowing how deeply antivirus software has to cut into a system to be effective, I'd say that you're just asking for trouble by trying to use anything but the included Microsoft anti-malware solution.
Wait until the OS is released before expecting 3rd party antivirus software to be 100% compatible.
There are many report of Anti-Virus software won't work in Windows 10 Technical Preview and as it is Technical Preview such a behavior is expected. If you won't install any Anti-Virus, you have Windows Defender pre-installed which protects you against all type of malwares.
Anti-Virus companies would release compatible version in future release but it is better to check with vendors about release date or compatibility workaround(if any).
I deployed Sophos Enterprise during OS deployment using MDT. Sophos is scanning, updating and being manage correctly. I only tested on Enterprise preview. Hope this helps.
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And how do you know it actually works? Did you specifically attempt to load all different kinds of malware into the system to test it?
I'm not saying it won't or can't work - frankly Windows 10 is really about as different from Windows 8.1 to be called Windows 8.2 - but there's no guarantee it will. The antivirus maker simply hasn't had time to ensure their product works perfectly with Windows 10. Frankly, if I were directing software development at such a company I'd necessarily limit my organization's expenditure on such a project. It's a moving target!
Yes. I have loaded a bunch of "evil" stuff and sophos did clean, move, or do nothing. Which is all normal. I confirmed cleanups, and moves both on the client and in the management console.
-tip
Just use the built-in Defender software. It's very good. BTW, many of the so-called "comparisons" you'll see, if not all of them, are bought & paid for by moneyed special interests...I recall one such review I wasted my time reading which purported to show the "10 best AV programs" on earth...! I was flabbergasted to see that out of the sum total of all the AV programs they tested not a single one of them was free--I'm not talking about the "10 best", I'm talking all the programs they tested to supposedly get to the "10 best"...;)
I've been using MSE (now Defender as of Win8.x and later) for many years and had it installed on many machines--very low footprint, *no* false positives, and on those occasions when I or other users stumbled into something nasty, was very neat and precise in putting it away fast.
Symantec was so ticked off at Microsoft for offering MSE for free that the company went to the EuC (in Belgium, I believe) to try and have Microsoft persecuted for anti-trust violations, and its "argument" was so ridiculous they were laughed out of court. Symantec tried to say that Microsoft had no right to protect customers of its OSes from security threats--but that *Symantec did*...! IE, Symantec attempted to have itself appointed as legal security guardian of Windows--or something equivalent to that...and maintained that Microsoft keeping its own OS secure for its own OS customers was "unfair"...! Like I said, Symantec was laughed out of court--literally. But...the fact that Symantec went to such lengths to try and have MSE canned was proof enough to me that Symantec was upset because it thought MSE was plenty good--too good in that it equaled/outperformed Symantec's own AV products (much smaller footprint, far less invasive.) I've never had a reason to change my mind.
And my gosh, man--don't walk but *run* from McAfee's as fast as your little legs will carry you...;) Ugh...!
Hi
I am testing Windows 10 tech preview and enterprise tech preview.Has anyone installed symantec or mcaffee or any other third party antivirus solutions? Please let me know with version numbers, thanks!
There are a few 3rd Party securities that are or may be compatible w/ Windows 10 TP BUT, there is no need for any of them. The OS has embedded, native security which is on by default.
Also, absolutely, do not recommend Norton or McAfee on windows 10 or any Operating System before it or after it, either. I have spent a lot of time removing these things from customers' machines over the years. Do not recommend them, @ all!!
Cheers,
Drew
This is an editorial. Please, allow or, even, indulge me that. This is not meant as debate or to start or fuel any arguing.
I have worked for many years as an IT Pro, Consultant, Technician. Several years ago there were no security products from Microsoft. During that time I used AVG a bit and Avast a lot. I would give of recommend them to my clients & as time went
on, mostly Avast. Certainly, over the years I gained more experience & experiences, learned more & became more knowledgeable. This led to & included acquiring very bad feelings towards Norton, McAfee & a few other (3rd Party) securities...
just to interject here, there are a couple of good ones, they are all crappy. To the point that I, as long as I can recall, carry around Removal Tools for these things; either I ask to remove them or customers ask me to remove them.
At some point it was realised that 3 conditions often existed. 1) Users would not install or use ANY security, 2) they would let them expire or 3) they would not keep definitions up to date. Coupled w/ this was the notion that ALL Users & ALL computers
should be adequately, well & properly, protected. There were people who felt this was an absolutely, basic, must. One of them was Bill Gates. Way back when, Microsoft discovered a product called OneCare and felt it was good enough that
they bought it or the company that made it. Once OneCare arrived I quite using Avast & started recommending OneCare to my clients. OneCare evolved into Microsoft Securities Essentials (MSE) which, is, in Windows 8.1 and 10, Windows Defender.
That said, here is the point of my editorial. There is a tendency to arbitrarily, carte blanche bash Microsoft & its products. But, MSE/WD is good (so are the hackers but, that's another discussion). It has a small footprint. It
doesn't get in the way of (good) stuff or conflict w/ (good) things. It is fully automated, does not require annual renewal or reregistering Keys or Licenses. It is ON, by default and IT IS FREE. Looking for, often paying
for and installing 3rd Party securities and the misery that often comes w/ or from many of them when your Operating System hands you embedded, built-in, GOOD security, natively is like looking a gift-horse in the mouth! It is like refusing
something that's been handed to you on a silver platter. No effort, no cost, no worries, no renewal, no updating and no issues in how well it plays w/ others. In all the long years I have used OneCare, MSE and WD I have never had a problem, nor
an infection and never had a complaint or concern from any of my customers using the same, either.
It is a good thing to have good security inherent to the OS. No thought, no worry. Just be happy & glad it is there... you don't have to lift a finger or pay a penny to know you are safe. Just turn your computer on and surf smartly.
And, lastly, by the way, Windows 10 Previews are betas. Just play it safe and just use what is in the OS that we know works instead of experimenting w/ 3rd Parties that may or may not work. Never mind any risk or headaches. Once you have
a Windows 10 GA in your hand, do/use whatever you fancy.
If you made it to here, thanks for reading my editorial.
Cheers,
Drew
The only issue you might see is if you uninstall Panda and can't get windows defender back On :/
A refresh install with flash media is the only way I got it back on so there is a bug in the uninstall process ;)
Cheers.
This is an editorial. Please, allow or, even, indulge me that. This is not meant as debate or to start or fuel any arguing.
I have worked for many years as an IT Pro, Consultant, Technician. Several years ago there were no security products from Microsoft. During that time I used AVG a bit and Avast a lot. I would give of recommend them to my clients & as time went on, mostly Avast. Certainly, over the years I gained more experience & experiences, learned more & became more knowledgeable. This led to & included acquiring very bad feelings towards Norton, McAfee & a few other (3rd Party) securities... just to interject here, there are a couple of good ones, they are all crappy. To the point that I, as long as I can recall, carry around Removal Tools for these things; either I ask to remove them or customers ask me to remove them.
At some point it was realised that 3 conditions often existed. 1) Users would not install or use ANY security, 2) they would let them expire or 3) they would not keep definitions up to date. Coupled w/ this was the notion that ALL Users & ALL computers should be adequately, well & properly, protected. There were people who felt this was an absolutely, basic, must. One of them was Bill Gates. Way back when, Microsoft discovered a product called OneCare and felt it was good enough that they bought it or the company that made it. Once OneCare arrived I quite using Avast & started recommending OneCare to my clients. OneCare evolved into Microsoft Securities Essentials (MSE) which, is, in Windows 8.1 and 10, Windows Defender.
That said, here is the point of my editorial. There is a tendency to arbitrarily, carte blanche bash Microsoft & its products. But, MSE/WD is good (so are the hackers but, that's another discussion). It has a small footprint. It doesn't get in the way of (good) stuff or conflict w/ (good) things. It is fully automated, does not require annual renewal or reregistering Keys or Licenses. It is ON, by default and IT IS FREE. Looking for, often paying for and installing 3rd Party securities and the misery that often comes w/ or from many of them when your Operating System hands you embedded, built-in, GOOD security, natively is like looking a gift-horse in the mouth! It is like refusing something that's been handed to you on a silver platter. No effort, no cost, no worries, no renewal, no updating and no issues in how well it plays w/ others. In all the long years I have used OneCare, MSE and WD I have never had a problem, nor an infection and never had a complaint or concern from any of my customers using the same, either.It is a good thing to have good security inherent to the OS. No thought, no worry. Just be happy & glad it is there... you don't have to lift a finger or pay a penny to know you are safe. Just turn your computer on and surf smartly.
And, lastly, by the way, Windows 10 Previews are betas. Just play it safe and just use what is in the OS that we know works instead of experimenting w/ 3rd Parties that may or may not work. Never mind any risk or headaches. Once you have a Windows 10 GA in your hand, do/use whatever you fancy.
If you made it to here, thanks for reading my editorial.Cheers,
Drew
The only issue you might see is if you uninstall Panda and can't get windows defender back On :/
A refresh install with flash media is the only way I got it back on so there is a bug in the uninstall process ;)
Cheers.
Well said, Drew.
A bit OT re: Win 10, but that's a moot point now - NO ONE should be using anything other than the included security solution on that, and I stand firmly by that statement.
Regarding Win 8.1... I have hung on to using Avast myself, though only as a safety net that hasn't actually been exercised in a very long time. But Avast is moving ever more into the realm of what I call "stupidware" - dumbed-down for the masses, and barely able to be used by a knowledgeable person. This has got me to thinking about whether I ought to just ditch it and drop back to the Microsoft-supplied solution. I'm already disabling many of the "keep laypeople safe" type features of Avast, and now they've introduced running applications in a Virtual Box VM for ultimate safety - ugh. I've turned that off now too, as I just don't need it (not to mention it's incompatible with other virtualization stuff I do).
I did some benchmarking a while back (which reminds me, I need to repeat this with the recently released Avast 2015) and I found that Visual Studio ran some 10 to 25% faster with Avast 2014 than with the included Win Defender security solution. Now, that's not THAT big a deal, but it's always welcome when a system build takes a few seconds less time.
malwarebytes works too
sir: i read that we are stuck with windows defender in win 10 and 8.1 until they figured out how we can install another antivirus program.
Why do you think you need 3rd party antivirus software for a preview version of Windows?
You do realize Windows 10 TP comes with Microsoft's anti-malware package included, right?
Knowing how deeply antivirus software has to cut into a system to be effective, I'd say that you're just asking for trouble by trying to use anything but the included Microsoft anti-malware solution.
Wait until the OS is released before expecting 3rd party antivirus software to be 100% compatible.
There are many report of Anti-Virus software won't work in Windows 10 Technical Preview and as it is Technical Preview such a behavior is expected. If you won't install any Anti-Virus, you have Windows Defender pre-installed which protects you against all type of malwares.
Anti-Virus companies would release compatible version in future release but it is better to check with vendors about release date or compatibility workaround(if any).
Just use the built-in Defender software. It's very good. BTW, many of the so-called "comparisons" you'll see, if not all of them, are bought & paid for by moneyed special interests...I recall one such review I wasted my time reading which purported to show the "10 best AV programs" on earth...! I was flabbergasted to see that out of the sum total of all the AV programs they tested not a single one of them was free--I'm not talking about the "10 best", I'm talking all the programs they tested to supposedly get to the "10 best"...;)
I've been using MSE (now Defender as of Win8.x and later) for many years and had it installed on many machines--very low footprint, *no* false positives, and on those occasions when I or other users stumbled into something nasty, was very neat and precise in putting it away fast.
Symantec was so ticked off at Microsoft for offering MSE for free that the company went to the EuC (in Belgium, I believe) to try and have Microsoft persecuted for anti-trust violations, and its "argument" was so ridiculous they were laughed out of court. Symantec tried to say that Microsoft had no right to protect customers of its OSes from security threats--but that *Symantec did*...! IE, Symantec attempted to have itself appointed as legal security guardian of Windows--or something equivalent to that...and maintained that Microsoft keeping its own OS secure for its own OS customers was "unfair"...! Like I said, Symantec was laughed out of court--literally. But...the fact that Symantec went to such lengths to try and have MSE canned was proof enough to me that Symantec was upset because it thought MSE was plenty good--too good in that it equaled/outperformed Symantec's own AV products (much smaller footprint, far less invasive.) I've never had a reason to change my mind.
And my gosh, man--don't walk but *run* from McAfee's as fast as your little legs will carry you...;) Ugh...!
I will support this ^ and back up what has been said here ^ 100%. Years as an IT Pro, Consultant, Tech, have confirmed run, really, really, fast AND far away from both McAfee and Norton AND their firewalls, too. For heaps of reasons MSE
makes very good sense. It was good enough & impressive enough to Microsoft that they bought the company that made it years ago. Gates felt all End Users & computers should be protected so GAVE it to you for free... unobtrusive, small footprint,
full auto, no annual renewal, no pesky, irritating pop-ups and it works well!! Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
Cheers,
Drew
If you made it to here, thanks for reading my editorial.Cheers,
Drew
If you made it to here, thanks for reading my editorial.Cheers,
Drew
LOL, respected professional.
I just love reading banter by people who know very little about how to actually keep their systems safe from malware.
If you're doing the right things, you really don't even need an antivirus package. It'll be an unused safety net.
Here are a few simple things you can do to REALLY keep your system safe:
Good luck.
Essentially, the How To Geek said the same thing.
"Now, if youre a geek like we are, MSE and Windows Defender are very usable. If you have good security practices and know what youre doing, you can manage just fine with this lightweight option. But average Windows users dont always follow proper security practices and should use a strong antivirus that does well in tests as Microsoft themselves now recommend"
In your list of examples, item 1 is playing "whack a mole" with malware, just like all the AV packages are. But some are better than others.
Item 3 is by far the most important thing people can do, but no matter how often you tell some people, they just can't help themselves, especially clicking on links within emails or the "you have a virus" web popups. Its what keeps me in business.
Jerry
I also have. In addition, AVG's latest 'rescue disk' scanned, found and cleaned a virus successfully without botching the installation.
It's a silly no proof article that should of been withdrawn long ago.
The silliest part is people still pull the article out of their bum and post it places as proof lol :D
Very sad of a Geek do your homework :/
No proof? He provided direct quotes from a Microsoft representative and an independent anti virus study. What proof do you have that it is silly other than you personally don't agree with it?
Very sad you don't do your own homework....
Jerry
It's better to not confuse Malware with a Antivirus's protection,
Even the top Antivirus suite need Dedicated malware engine help,
As in MBAM Pro now Premium,
Not even Norton..................... is any good against Malware so everyone needs a good dose of reality on who blocks what and at what cost,
Independent is another word for secretly sponsored by the top 3 winners usually :p
Microsoft has Nothing to gain there is no profit in Free versions of an Antivirus program,
Unless that Free version has a Paid for version available :)
always have to laugh reading the forums.
quote from internet security taskforce "there is no such thing as 100% safe while connected to the internet"
another quote from the same person "IT is an selfmade name for an person who got scholing about basic programming"
my real life experience says that people who call themself ITer is somebody who's trying to put themself on an pied-de-stalle and wandering in forums when they are bored because there is no customers in they're computer shop at that time.
also windows defender failed me several times in win 7 and 8 and didnt blocked ,find,removed all the viruses trowed at my pc from an malicious website that trow massifly viruses and malware-viruses at same time .
same goes for AVG,avast and norton.the one that didnt failed me yet is zone-alarm and the security package hitman pro.dont go look for an zonealarm install for win10 because they will only release one when the final public release of win 10 is available and thats what all AV should do.
win 10 is in beta test and should not be used as an main os and used in an test envirement like virtualization
ps:when did you got the latest virus installed on youre pc? i cant recall when that was for me beside the massif attack tests. malware?.....today.
Roger, 'dipo' & others,
Maybe, just use the default security in these betas. Maybe, wait til the GA for 3rd Party securities.
There seem to be no issues when using the embedded security.
Cheers,
Drew
K7 full security work's fine.
Hi
I am testing Windows 10 tech preview and enterprise tech preview.Has anyone installed symantec or mcaffee or any other third party antivirus solutions? Please let me know with version numbers, thanks!
There are a few 3rd Party securities that are or may be compatible w/ Windows 10 TP BUT, there is no need for any of them. The OS has embedded, native security which is on by default.
Also, absolutely, do not recommend Norton or McAfee on windows 10 or any Operating System before it or after it, either. I have spent a lot of time removing these things from customers' machines over the years. Do not recommend them, @ all!!
Cheers,
Drew
Thanks, that's hilarious!! I needed a good laugh today. And so well said but, I got it.
M A has given new meaning to malware..
New definition for malware (no pun intended) - something one does not hold in high esteem ;) :)
Cheers,
Drew
Hi
I am testing Windows 10 tech preview and enterprise tech preview.Has anyone installed symantec or mcaffee or any other third party antivirus solutions? Please let me know with version numbers, thanks!
There are a few 3rd Party securities that are or may be compatible w/ Windows 10 TP BUT, there is no need for any of them. The OS has embedded, native security which is on by default.
Also, absolutely, do not recommend Norton or McAfee on windows 10 or any Operating System before it or after it, either. I have spent a lot of time removing these things from customers' machines over the years. Do not recommend them, @ all!!
Cheers,
Drew
Yes me too I'm also running malwarebytes anti-malware pro both run together no problems
I know that BD works because I download out of usenet a lot and its caught a few viruses.
Yes me too I'm also running malwarebytes anti-malware pro both run together no problems
I know that BD works because I download out of usenet a lot and its caught a few viruses.
Sir, your wrong very wrong.
While your response sounds respectful, it might help to quote a bit of the post you're disputing. Otherwise your point is kind of lost.
Using proper English is another good idea. People pay more attention to properly written language.
A third good idea is to justify your position with observations and facts. Real life is not about instant messaging, and opinions without reason are altogether too common.
So... Whose post are you disputing?
Hi,
I am trying to install Symantec Endpoint
(12.1.4013.4013), but the installation
stops and makes me a rollback.
My SEP is a maneged client.
I'm trying W10 64bit.
Can you help?
Best Regards,
Hi,
I am trying to install Symantec Endpoint (12.1.4013.4013), but the installation stops and makes me a rollback. My SEP is a maneged client.
I'm trying W10 64bit.
Can you help?Best Regards,
Yes, I can, Javier...
Forget about it. It is unnecessary. If you must run a 3rd Party A-V, please, wait until the GA. 3rd Parties are not obliged to have products that are compatible w/ or that support beta OSs.
Solution:
Use the security embedded in, native to the OS, called Windows Defender which is ON, by default and given to you free of charge.
Cheers,
Drew
Use the security embedded in, native to the OS, called Windows Defender which is ON, by default and given to you free of charge.
And, I might add, do some reading in this thread for other techniques and also learn and apply safe computing practices. Most malware enters your computer because you invite it in via the things you do.
i have installed avira antivirus pro version - 14.0.6.522
it work very well on my laptop without any crisis
i have installed avira antivirus pro version - 14.0.6.522
it work very well on my laptop without any crisis
How do you know it works very well? Did you subject it to testing to see if it detects known malware?
Mc Afee Anti Virus + won't installTo repeat. Sure some may appreciate your info...
I have had to remove one that you mentioned in 3 family laptops recently due to serious system load/degradation! All 3 were near experation-renewal time. Hmmmmm sometimes I wonder if these programs need to justify their existance on your system......., microsoft defender and smartscreen work quite well.Since you have said this I will, allow myself to add a line that I had in my note to 'mimtravaia' but, removed. I will say this as an IT Pro. Have removed McAfee & Norton & others from countless customer machines. Do not ever recommend them for the reasons you state & more. Only mentioned to support & agree w/ your comment; am not opening a door to debate over security programs. That's not to say there are not products on the market about which IT Pros can be comfortable. There a some that cost money that are respectable, there are others w/ cost where someone would do well to save their money.
Microsoft FEP 2010 is an Enterprise security product. It is not was not designed for Consumer use.
Supported Operating System Windows 7 Enterprise, Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Edition (32-Bit x86), Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2, Windows Server 2008, Windows
Server 2008 R2, Windows Vista, Windows Vista Service Pack 1, Windows Vista Service Pack 2, Windows XP Service Pack 2, Windows XP Service Pack 3
Again, it is recommended to use the default OS security w/ the Win10 Beta Builds.
Cheers,
Drew
bitdefender 2015 antivirus every time updates needed to reboot any answers
Hector,
I have an answer for you... whether you will accept my advice...
At least, w/ & during these beta Builds we are testing, please, just use Windows Defender instead of 3rd Party products. You won't get thess problems you are experiencing w/ WD. If you must use a 3rd Party product, please wait until the GA to
replace WD.
Cheers,
Drew