Hi all I'm creating visio views of the various application components, and have had to do some hacking to get some to work (eg Citrix), but I thought AD would be the easiest as I could use the existing groups, but when i have used these, in visio i get "uninitialized" as the health state. i've tried creating custom groups using the AD DC role as the basis for the group, but still no luck. Is there any way I can get this to work - or am I doing something wrong here and its really just me being dumb? Any help would be much appreciated!! Cheers Ash

Creating a group doesn't automatically end up giving it a state. One would have to create dependency monitors between specific classes and the group (this is done declaratively in a management pack) to have the group health be a function of the health of the contained tpes. Do the groups show up with a state in the SCOM operator console?Microsoft Corporation

If you want to do this without venturing into the authoring console, you can create a distributed application and place the monitoring objects in a component group. That way the health will roll up as you expect. Actually, you can control the health rollup. You can select best / worst or a percentage... MattMatt White ( http://systemcenterblog.hardac.co.uk/ )

Hi, I would like to share the following information about the computer group and health status: Grouping Windows Computer Objects and Associated Health Service Watcher Object: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/steverac/archive/2008/10/17/grouping-windows-computer-objects-and-associated-health-service-watcher-object.aspx Creating computergroups: http://jama00.wordpress.com/2009/12/09/creating-computergroups/Please remember to click Mark as Answer on the post that helps you, and to click Unmark as Answer if a marked post does not actually answer your question. This can be beneficial to other community members reading the thread.

Not sure if i've completely explained myself correctly here. I can create groups, and have created groups based on applications/registry. my groups get populated fine. what i am missing is state, and what i don't understand is why, because using the same methodology as both microsoft's own groups, and my own successful attempts (eg a citrix group), it should work. what makes even less sense is that although the discovered inventory view shows the status as not monitored, if i run health explorer against the group, the lower level states all show the state, but the top level states show as no monitored. as an example, this is a group i have created for exchange - the group populates fine, the lower level states shows the status, the higher levels (eg performance health rollup etc) show no status. <RuleId>$MPElement$</RuleId> <GroupInstanceId>$MPElement[Name="ExchangeUKServers.ExchangeUKServersGroup"]$</GroupInstanceId> <MembershipRules> <MembershipRule> <MonitoringClass>$MPElement[Name="Windows!Microsoft.Windows.Computer"]$</MonitoringClass> <RelationshipClass>$MPElement[Name="SC!Microsoft.SystemCenter.ComputerGroupContainsComputer"]$</RelationshipClass> <Expression> <And> <Expression> <Contains> <MonitoringClass>$MPElement[Name="Exchange!Microsoft.Exchange2007.Component.DiscoveryHelper"]$</MonitoringClass> </Contains> </Expression> <Expression> <RegExExpression> <ValueExpression> <Property>$MPElement[Name="Windows!Microsoft.Windows.Computer"]/NetbiosComputerName$</Property> </ValueExpression> <Operator>MatchesWildcard</Operator> <Pattern>uk*</Pattern> </RegExExpression> </Expression> </And> </Expression> </MembershipRule> </MembershipRules> </Configuration> Is there a step I'm missing - and if so what is it? Dan alluded to this, but what do i need to do to enable this? Thanks.

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